Why Yale over Harvard?

<p>yo how about this-</p>

<p>who cares? yale is good. harvard is good. get over yourself, choades.</p>

<p>thank you.</p>

<p>really, i'd be happy going to either school. When you get to the level that harvard and yale are at, it really doesn't matter the EXTENT of their resources. It comes down to how you take advantage of them (whatever they be, social life, libraries, teachers, etc.)</p>

<p>A desire to improve the "image" safety-wise may have led to a certain type of game-playing in the reporting of incidents.</p>

<p>The whole program for collecting such stats has fallen into disarray, since all schools don't play by the same rules in collecting the data, deciding what constitutes a "crime", deciding what the boundaries of the "campus" are, etc., etc.</p>

<p>See: "Yale University Accused Of Violating Federal Campus Crime Reporting Law"</p>

<p><a href="http://www.securityoncampus.org/update/v04n05.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.securityoncampus.org/update/v04n05.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You already posted that.</p>

<p>Kebree (a few posts earlier) apparently missed it.</p>

<p>Any crime stats I have posted have represented official, uniform FBI city-by-city numbers</p>

<p>mjc11387, this 62-year old Harvard alumni interviewer loves to visit websites populated by teenagers and argue with them till dawn. Just say Harvard is #1, the best, or you're in for endless rancor. He has all the time in the world. You don't. You have better things to do. He posts 24/7 for lack of alternative social relationships. Watch NYCFan show up soon after this post. He can't resist.</p>

<p>wow...only old people have this tenacity... =P</p>

<p>wow, Byerly, I really hope you are not a 62 year old Harvard graduate. If that is true, you are really pathetic and it is people like YOU who make Yale seem like a better school.</p>

<p>When you can't handle the message, attack the messenger ... or stick your fingers in your ears!</p>

<p>When you can't handle the insult, shirk it off like it wasn't thrown.</p>

<p>Lux Et Veritas</p>

<p>That's right, now stop trolling the Yale board. Promoting lux et veritas is the last thing you've done here.</p>

<p>Here are the top 20 from the 2004 rankings:</p>

<p>1 Harvard University 1.000</p>

<p>2 Princeton University 0.975</p>

<p>3 Stanford University 0.946</p>

<p>4 Columbia University 0.926</p>

<p>5 California Institute of Technology 0.922</p>

<p>6 Yale University 0.913</p>

<p>7 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 0.877</p>

<p>8 Brown University 0.835</p>

<p>9 University of California, Berkeley 0.806</p>

<p>10 University of California, Los Angeles 0.785</p>

<p>11 University of Pennsylvania 0.784</p>

<p>12 Dartmouth College 0.776</p>

<p>13 Rice University 0.770</p>

<p>14 Duke University 0.755</p>

<p>15 Swarthmore College 0.740</p>

<p>16 Amherst College 0.735</p>

<p>17 University of California, San Diego 0.727</p>

<p>18 Williams College 0.720</p>

<p>19 Georgetown University 0.719</p>

<p>20 Cornell University 0.718</p>

<p>If someone out there is choosing a college just because it's ranked high on some list or because of its name, then they really should re-evaluate their method of choosing where they'll be spending the next four years of their life.</p>

<p>Atlantic Monthly ranks top 10</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT </li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Brown<br></li>
<li>Swarthmore.</li>
</ol>

<p>byerly and forz, cut it out
you guys have hijacked the harvard yale and princeton boards saying the exact same things and posting the exact same meaningless ratings
cut it out and find something better to do
you are both doing nothing but embarassing the great school you are so desperately trying to laud</p>

<p>... and although not identical, certain patterns emerge.</p>

<p>For example, here is yet another list that has gotten a lot of attention lately: the London Times list of the Top 10 Universities in the World:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard University
2 University of California, Berkeley
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
4 California Institute of Technology
5 Oxford University
6 Cambridge University
7 Stanford University
8 Yale University
9 Princeton University
10 London School of Economics</li>
</ol>

<p>i know the rankings are not meaningless and that they do have a strong influence on public opinion, but my larger point was that you guys arent changing anyones opinion and are just wasting everyones time by posting the same ratings on different boards
and besides byerly, your last post appeared to be making a point but instead of demonstrating how ratings matter or how trends emerge in the ratings you just self destructed into your vice of post the latest and greatest top 10 rating
you make a point, then BAM check out this rating!</p>

<p>Would you shut up already, Byerly? It's really getting annoying. Your reliance on rankings that have been criticized all too often and that do NOT show "certain patterns" - and that use different criteria, no less - doesn't prove anything you say. Everyone here recognizes Harvard as an excellent school, one of the best in the country, and you need to stop shoving external rankings of "prestige" down our throats because we've chosen "#2." Everyone gets it already! Ivy League and Ivy Level (to borrow a term from Michele Hernandez) schools are some of the best in the world, and the differences between them (as far as "prestige" goes) are minimal. Seriously, spend your time doing something productive. This hardly qualifies.</p>

<p>... there are a number of academic studies demonstrating the close relationship between a school's rise or fall in the USNews rankings and its subsequent application totals and yield rates.</p>

<p>This is particularly true below the level of the top elites, where demand is somewhat inelastic.</p>