<p>Yale is also superior in English.</p>
<p>Not according to USNews</p>
<p>wahts easier to get into Yale or Harvard?</p>
<p>Both are difficult to get into. This year (ie, Class of 2009) the overall admit rate was 9.1% at Harvard and 9.6% at Yale.</p>
<p>USNews means nothing, Byerly. Yale remains the premier school for English.</p>
<p>no its not.</p>
<p>Yes, it is.</p>
<p>hahaha, it looks like a CC version of war has broken out on the Yale boards between Yale and Harvard. It was bound to happen eventually...</p>
<p>Cornell is best!</p>
<p>You can't stop 369 years of history---Harvard.</p>
<p>(My above response was in reply to Yale's "300 years," posted by thinkjose1).</p>
<p>there's a good case to be made - byerly has made it elsewhere - that yale won't truly turn 300 'til next decade.</p>
<p>Right. Founded in 1718.</p>
<p>No offence to anyone, but I've always wondered why people think age is such a terribly important factor.
Simple example: My country is 13 centuries old. Compare that to the USA...does that mean my country is "greater"? Does it mean ANYTHING at all?
Just a thought...</p>
<p>You'd have to ask the people at Yale. </p>
<p>Their "official" historian, Brooks Kelley, once acknowledged that "the 1701 date is essentially a fiction created by University fundraisers, but so much has been written about it that it is probably too late, now, to correct the historical record."</p>
<p>I'd like to see a reference to that quote, because it seems oddly similar to a YDN article:</p>
<p>"In 1701, five Connecticut ministers met to discuss how to found a university. Ministers James Pierpont, Thomas Buckingham, Abraham Pierson, Israel Chauncey and Gurdon Saltonstall decided that they needed to ask the colonial assembly to grant a charter for the school. </p>
<p>Legend holds that each of these ministers brought books to this first meeting and said, "I give these books for the founding [of] a college in this colony." </p>
<p>Whether this occurred is uncertain, but Brooks Kelley, a former Yale archivist and author of the 1974 book "Yale: A History," holds that the myth has been perpetuated because it is "often repeated by the University's fundraisers." </p>
<p>On either Oct. 15 or 16, 1701 (historians are unsure of this date), the ministers received a grant to start a university "wherein youth may be instructed in the Arts and Sciences who through the blessing of Almighty God may be fitted for Public employment both in Church and Civil State." </p>
<p>It seems to me, Brooks' uncertainty refers to the meeting of ministers and the giving of books to found the college, not the date as your quote suggests. Perhaps you were quoting another source, because I doubt you would intentionally misrepresent Yale.</p>
<p>I once had a long, rewarding conversation with Brooks Kelley, for whom I have enormous respect. </p>
<p>He takes a tongue-in-cheek approach to all the Yale "legends" - including the virtues (few though they were) of that old reprobate Eli Yale.</p>
<p>For Yale to claim direct lineage from the "Collegeate Schoole" founded (sort of) years earlier - in another town, with one (1!) student, that subsequently went broke and closed, is pathetic; not unlike the modern-day Democratic Party claiming to be the direct decendent of the party of Thomas Jefferson.</p>
<p>Byerly,
Is Byerly your real name or is your username after the Harvard admissions office?</p>
<p>Yale University was founded in 1701 in Branford, Connecticut.
In 1718 it was renamed Yale College in honor of its benefactor, English merchant Elihu Yale.</p>
<p>Source: Encarta.</p>
<p>"English merchant" my foot. The guy was born in Boston, in Scollay Square. He fled to England to avoid creditors who sought to bring him up on charges of fraud. Sort of the "Bernie Kornfeld of his day." That's why (presumably on advice of counsel) he declined to visit New Haven to be lionized.</p>