<p>Since my football season ended, I have been looking into playing at an ivy or patriot league school. I really had no aspirations to play at a D1 (FBS) school, however this week a local D1 FBS school offered me. As I know I probably wont make it to the NFL, my number one priority in going to college is getting a good education. The D1 school which offered me is not a very competitive school, and because of this I really don't have much interest in playing there. I still however have a big interest in playing at an Ivy or Patriot League school. I have a 4.1 (3.4 UW) and an 1890 on my SAT (only one try so far), so from what I've read I have the grades and test scores for at least the lower level Ivy's and almost all of the Patriots. Anyway, will this D1 offer get me more attention and possibly offers from more academically competitive schools? </p>
<p>Sorry for the grammatical mistakes, I typed this really quickly.</p>
<p>First off, I’m not an expert on Ivy football recruiting. However, I know the process only too well for Ivy baseball. If we were talking about baseball, you would be very late to the game…with virtually no chance except to walk-on (at best). However, I’m fairly certain football takes vastly more walk-ons. Your goal is to get the football coaches help with Admission which would be like a Hail-Mary with 3 seconds left on the clock… Based on today’s date and the recruiting calendar, the term “help” is going to be very relative.</p>
<p>As I see it, the challenge you have is with time, marketing and exposure. First, you need to get these coaches attention to let them know you are interested in coming to their school. Others may be able to chime in to tell you how to do that and possibly to include game tape or whatever. Second, you need to re-take the SAT and score higher if you are going to have a chance. ivy coaches have very little influence (at least in baseball) with Admissions for Regular Decision applications. You are going to have to finesse the system, and get lucky IMHO. But it is a shot worth taking. Incidently, I’d market yourself to Ivy,Patriot, and academic D3 schools as soon as possible to achieve your goals.</p>
<p>PS…If the coach asks “who else is recruiting you?” then I may mention the other D1 program if you think it will help your positioning. Good luck.</p>
<p>I don’t know that the offer will get you more attention - but it does validate that you are a potential D1 caliber player. Your academics put you in the 200-205 AI range - which would probably be 3rd AI band at most Ivy schools. (4 AI bands for football, 4 being the highest). Don’t wait for the offers to come in - you should initiate contact with the programs that interest you.</p>
<p>Fenway south- I’m a junior. Not late to the recruiting game</p>
<p>Sorry studfest, senior moment on my part. If you are getting a D1 offer from a D1 FBS school that tells me that you’ve been identified as someone who has the strength, size or quickness to play at a couple levels above Ivy/Patriot/D3. You’ve got to let these Ivy coaches of your interest as Varska points out. Don’t expect them to come to you…you’ve got to go to them. I think you’ll see a lot of interest. Ivy and Patriot coaches want the best football players they can help get admitted. If they see that, they are going to be all over you. In addition, you can help yourself by re-taking the SAT to put yourself in a much better position with the Coach and Admissions. JMO. </p>
<p>Agree that you should retake the SAT, and start talking to Ivy coaches.</p>
<p>Also agree that with Ivies, they seem to care about who else is recruiting you. Some even ask on their recruiting page. We were told that although my son is not targeting Harvard or Yale, it’s good to keep in contact with them to tell other Ivies that’s where you are looking and find the interest level.</p>
<p>Patriot League should be an easier target than Ivies, but it depends on your fit in the organization as well.</p>
<p>I tried to contact Ivy coaches before I received my offer, but was only contacted back by one school. And I noticed similarly to you that on patriot and ivy questionnaires they ask about d1 offers you have, implying that they do care and take notice if you have any. </p>
<p>Based on my son’s experience, if you could get 100 higher on your SAT (which should be doable, maybe do the College Board’s online SAT study program), you would be golden for Ivies if you can maintain that GPA.</p>
<p>Find out ASAP about on-campus ID camps, but also pare down which Ivies and Patriot league you would be looking at. For example, BU tends to recruit pretty late as far as we can tell.</p>
<p>Right now, I’m pretty certain what ivys/patriots I’m looking at. I’m also retaking the sat this Saturday and have since taken a prep course, which should help</p>
<p>The schools I like are (in no particular order) Princeton, Dartmouth, Cornell, brown, Georgetown, and Colgate </p>
<p>Generally in football recruiting offers bring more offers. So getting an offer from a D1 should help you get offers from other D1s and the schools you are interested in. Not an expert on the Ivys but have some experience with Patriot League recruiting. Since they recently began offering athletic scholarhsips (except Georgetown) they have a lot to offer. Some great academic schools to consider and most recruit nationally. </p>
<p>But if you got a low level D1 offer I would not be surprised if more don’t start coming your way. Often schools see another offer a kid, take a look, and then decide to also offer him. Good luck. </p>
<p>The school I was offered by is low level. </p>
<p>In that it’s still a d1-a school but it is towards the bottom </p>
<p>Why would a Ivy/Patriot league school give a rats A## about an offer tendered by another school if they didn’t have an interest in the first place? It would only be of interest if they were pursuing you, if not than it means nothing, besides an Ivy/Patriot aren’t really in the business of looking for the most athletic player for their team, they are interested moreso in a player that can academically compete at the school</p>
<p>ivys and patriots are d1aa, they definitely are interested in recruiting the most athletic players that they can find. </p>
<p>Son was recruited by an Ivy and a couple of Patriot (pre-athletic scholarship) league schools. His ability to compete athletically was the #1 priority on their list, followed by his grades and test scores being good enough that they could “get him in school without going through the whole admissions process”. Competing and succeeding academically was discussed but it was far from their top priority.</p>
<p>Having offers from D1A schools tells other schools they think he is good enough athletically to warrant their offer, and often this is all a school needs to know to also make them an offer.</p>
<p>S77, if your grades are as they say and you can bump the SAT up a little I think you have a very good shot at the Patriot league schools. But you can’t expect them to find you, you need to contact them, fill out questionnaires, send them your highlight film, etc to show your interest. </p>
<p>my grades are as they say, also a quick update, got contacted back by a holy cross coach, said the staff really liked my film, gave me his contact info and wants to talk tomorrow</p>
<p>also, what is a good score to shoot for regarding the patriots? also what do you think the lowest a patriot would go regarding the sat?</p>
<p>Studfest77, sorry I have not been back on CC since my last unfortunate comment to you. I was really convinced at the time that you were messing about on these forums (it would not be the first time) but can see now that you are what you are. I apologize for jumping the gun on you so unfairly last month. Sounds like you are headed in a good direction from your other posts, so I wanted to wish you luck.</p>