Will any school ever join HYPSM?

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<p>Sorry if this has been asked, I couldn't find the question in search.</p>

<p>It used to be HYP, then S & M joined the party so it's not exclusive indefinitely. Do you think any other schools will join this grouping in the future?</p>

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<p>im assuming M is MIT
Caltech is ranked the same as mit, but is too small, any ivy could join that,
i would guess columbia or cornell, if any</p>

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<p>I’m putting my money on University of Chicago. Stanford seems to fill a void for the west coast for “elite of the elite” schools as does Duke do for the south. I think U of Chicago will fill that vacuum for the Midwest.</p>

<p>In fact, when I was at an information session at Yale this summer, the admissions officer acknowledged Chicago as a peer institution when a parent asked about Yale’s decision to keep early admit programs while Harvard and Princeton haven’t. The officer went on to say that Yale had no plans of stopping it’s early admit program and other schools such as Chicago are still doing it.</p>

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<p>I like CHYMPS. The C can be Chicago, Caltech, Columbia, Cornell or any other “C” school of your choosing.</p>

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<p>This is as productive as asking if Brazil will ever join the Security Council as a permanent member.</p>

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<p>How about this: DYMN-CHPS, D could be Dartmouth, Duke or any other school starting with a D and N could be Northwestern or others. Pronounce like Damn-Chips.</p>

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<p>How about we include the entire top 50 and start spelling out sentences.</p>

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<p>Actually, Caltech is already up there with HYPSM. In fact, to some scholars, top students and employers, Caltech is regarded just as great as HYPSM, so it’s HYPSMC. </p>

<p>Now, as to which school is poised to join HYPSMC in the future, my money is with the University of Pennsylvania or UPenn. In fact, one of its colleges - the biggest in the university - is already on par with HYPSM. </p>

<p>The only other school to join HYPSMC (and soon UPenn) is UC Berkeley. It is a long stretch at the very moment though, due to over-population of in-state students. But its academics are already on par or slightly superior to some of HYPSMC. No other school has the credibility to join HYPSMC now or in the near future other than Penn and Berkeley.</p>

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Great idea, but the sentences have to make sense.</p>

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<p>I like DYMN-CHPS.</p>

<p>I also like the idea of excluding MIT and Caltech from any consideration, as they are niche schools. (I was a philosophy major.)</p>

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<p>Yes I concur. If liberal arts colleges are in a separate category, so should technical institutions.</p>

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<p>MIT has philosophy majors. And history majors. Hence, not a niche school. In fact:
<a href=“http://web.mit.edu/firstyear/2013/choiceofmajor/choiceofmajorform2010.pdf[/url]”>http://web.mit.edu/firstyear/2013/choiceofmajor/choiceofmajorform2010.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Those are all the things (I think) you can major in at MIT. Looks like a pretty typical university to me. Even if the choices are pretty broad, rather than specific majors you can do at other universities.</p>

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I see…</p>

<p>Anyway, I think by grouping these schools together in a block like this, to the point where so many people on here say “applying to HYPSM”, fails to do the individual schools justice, somehow makes people think less of colleges not a part of this acronym, and is just an extension of the prestige game.</p>

<p>I did like the CHYMPS idea, though, because it seems to make the acronym less serious, so maybe people would take it less seriously. Also, it is funny.</p>

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<p>^^
2010 MIT Degrees Conferred</p>

<p>Engineering … 40%
CS/IS … 15%
Physical Sciences … 10%
Math … 8%
Bio/Life Sci … 6%
Business/Mkting … 6%
Interdisciplinary … 6%
Social Sci … 5%
Architecture … 2%
Visual/Perf Arts … 1%
Lib Arts/General … 1%
TOTAl … 100%
(Source: 2009-2010 CDS)</p>

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<p>Yeah, but MIT still requires SAT IIs in math and a scientific subject, which, while in keeping with its ethos and, you know, name, makes it prejudiced against people who’re not scientifically inclined.</p>

<p>And to answer the OP’s question… Cornell. <em>leaves thread whistling</em></p>

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<p>Anybody can add whatever school to the acronym that they want. You don’t need to consult the National Committee Of Acronym Makers. We all have our list of universities that we think are better than others.</p>

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<p>The simple point is, both MIT and Caltech have postgrad degree offerings. LACs don’t, that’s why they’re in a separate league.</p>

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<p>If we add WUSTL, we could have WHYMPS. Unfortunately, that’s probably not happening anytime soon…oh well</p>

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<p>HYPS are the richest schools in the country, per student, by a wide margin. This alone rules out almost any would be competitors.</p>

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<p>“The simple point is, both MIT and Caltech have postgrad degree offerings. LACs don’t, that’s why they’re in a separate league.”</p>

<p>Williams College</p>

<p>Undergraduates 2,124
Postgraduates 49</p>

<p>Bowdoin College</p>

<p>Undergraduates 1,723
Postgraduates Some postdoctoral students and visiting scholars</p>

<p>Reed College</p>

<p>Undergraduates 1,442
Postgraduates 29</p>

<p>Wesleyan <em>University</em></p>

<p>Undergraduates 2,766
Postgraduates 180</p>

<p>Et cetera.</p>

<p>And this criterion is completely random and arbitrary anyway.</p>