<p>give ur opinion. please provide evidence to support statements.</p>
<p>This sounds like a homework assignment.</p>
<p>I just want people to motivate others that UCLA will be the best.</p>
<p>Yes, forever! 
(It helps to have your name on the Periodic Table of Elements, and the other one is really the “Southern Branch”.)</p>
<p>Seriously, though, with the looming budget cuts and fiscal mismanagement of the state, I expect that Cal will start to drop as it loses faculty. Over time, it’s peer assessment score will take a hit; UVa could be top public as early as next year. Unfortunately, the same state economics apply to UCLA as well.</p>
<p>No. UCLA will always be perceived as Cal’s little sibling. However, the gap between the two has been closing over the years</p>
<p>Berkeley is ranked 21
UCLA is ranked 25
(by US News)</p>
<p>Doesn’t seem like a huge difference to me. Plus because of sports UCLA is probably better known.</p>
<p>I think we’ll overtake Cal soon. Give me some time guys, I’ve only been here to quarters :P.</p>
<p>UCLA already surpassed Berkeley in the world ranking news.
UCLA #30th and Berkeley #36.
we will surpass US news soon or later.</p>
<p>No, given its symbolic feature as the first University of California, Cal will always be recognized better than UCLA. But, even though UCLA will not be ahead of Cal, the difference between two will be decreased significantly so that this difference will not affect students’ college choices. Even in this year, I’ve seen many students choose UCLA over Cal.</p>
<p>In theory it is possible for UCLA undergrad to outrank Cal, but it will never occur at the graduate and professional school level.</p>
<p>Due to the ****ty state economy (side rant: and the stupid 66% budget rule in the state legislature), it is likely that both Cal and UCLA will fall at roughly equal rates.</p>
<p>Please refer to this chart: <a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/fall_2009_admissions_table_4.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2009/fall_2009_admissions_table_4.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Cal: 29.5%
UCLA: 21.4%</p>
<p>Fall 2007
Berkeley: 30.8%
UCLA: 23.6%</p>
<p>Fall 2008
Berkeley: 27.5%
UCLA: 22.1%</p>
<p>Fall 2009
Berkeley: 29.5%
UCLA: 21.4%</p>
<p>I found the above data surprising. So, does this mean that UCLA is now more selective than Cal? This can’t be right.</p>
<p>Profile of admitted freshman
Number of applicants: 48,627 (Fall 2009) (Source)</p>
<p>4,300 students enrolled (Fall 2008) (Source)</p>
<p>22.2% of applicants admitted (Fall 2008) (Source)</p>
<p>3.82 (on a 4.0 scale) average high-school grade point for admitted freshmen (Fall 2008). </p>
<p>SAT scores: Average SAT Composite score of 1989 for admitted freshmen (Fall 2008). </p>
<p>85% from California (Fall 2008) (Source)</p>
<p>85% from public high schools (2008) (Source)</p>
<p>64% have at least one parent born outside the U.S. (2006) (Source)</p>
<p>30% are first in their family to attend a four-year college (2007) (Source)</p>
<p>bruin4life is wrong</p>
<p>ucla gets more applicants than cal hence the lower acceptance rate.</p>
<p>(smart people usually apply to both la and cal)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/...ns_table_4.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/...ns_table_4.pdf</a></p>
<p>THE CAL ACCEPTANCE RATE IS 23 % FOR FALL READ THE BOTTOM!!! OF THE PAGE. 29% is for both winter and fall.!!!</p>
<p>mikecerang </p>
<p>All of my data comes from the link from post #11.</p>
<p>i wasnt scared of applying to Cal at all…</p>
<p>
Limits limits have been put on every UC except for Berkeley, UCLA, and Merced.
[UC</a> Regents Limit Enrollment, Senior Salaries - The Daily Californian](<a href=“http://www.dailycal.org/article/103912/uc_regents_limit_enrollment_senior_salaries]UC”>http://www.dailycal.org/article/103912/uc_regents_limit_enrollment_senior_salaries)</p>
<p>Looks like the data Bruin4life found is only for California applicants. That would suggest UCLA is harder to get into in-state, but wasier to get into out of state.</p>