Will my African American buddy get in?

<p>Single parent home
African AMerican
GPA UW: 3.56
GPA W: 5.23
ACT: 28
Essays: Exceptional
SAT 2s: 610 Writing, 640 US history, 580 Math IIc (taking them again)
In his interview, the man was basically telling him that he would try his hardest to get him in. I mean, his interview was one in a million phenomenal!</p>

<p>EC:
St. lukes volunteer staff (40 hours/week) every year
Soccer 20hrs/week every year (Team Captain)
Math honor society every year
science honor society every year
english honor society 2 years
national honor society 2 years
Guitar every year
Marching band for 2 years (Section Leader)
Academic Decathlon
Awards:
Volunteer Achievement at St. Lukes every year
Numerous Soccer Awards
Solo and Ensemble 1st place winner for a trombone solo twice
Music and sound talent show winner for guitar
Academic Excelllence all years
silver medal at interview at decathlon locals
forget the rest....</p>

<p>he has taken every AP class there is and does well in them
his recommendation letters were good too.</p>

<p>I really want him to get in, will he?</p>

<p>you really have to get those scores up. Your activities and gpa seem fine. If ou get over a 1350 or a 31 on the ACT than I think you have a good shot. Good luck</p>

<p>Anyone else? I'll be sure to show him this.</p>

<p>Personally I think he will get in b/c of his extracurriculars and grades, I think they'll give him grievance on his ACT score(1260 is not that bad), my cousin has a friend(he's black) who got in with 1220 SAT with the same credentials as your friend so tell him to be hopeful. Plus he(your friend) comes from a single-parent household and he's a URM, which are heavily recruited by the ivies. I read that in some internet article that ivies are willing to exchange good grades for good test scores when it comes to URMs so tell him to be optimistic!</p>

<p>GO BIG GREEN!!</p>

<p>are you sure it's not you?</p>

<p>no, it's my cousin. I am not applying to Dartmouth. My cousin and his mother live around me and my mom helps them pay for school. I just hope things work out for him</p>

<p>You never know, but if his application comes across as unique+great essay I'd say he has as good of a chance as anyone else--remembering Dartmouth accepts about 15%.</p>

<p>How good is he at soccer? recruitable?</p>

<p>Sounds like a hard worker--hope that comes across in the application, for his sake.</p>

<p>I normally do not do chances because I beleive that if you don't throw your hat in the ring your have a 100% chance of not being admitted. </p>

<p>Regarding SAT scores -they are taken into consideration in context of one's enviornment. A 1300 from a student from a single parent household, public school who works part time to help the family is going to be viewed differently than a 1300 from an intact 2 parent household where one or both parents are professionals. High SES, private school (or premier public school). SATs are also going to be taken in content of the average scores of the school which you attend. If you attend an elite private school where the average score is 1410, your 1300 does not put you competitively in the pool. You wrote that your cousin is from a single parent home, that too is going to be all relative . A stdent from a single parent household is going to be looked at differently from a child froma single parent household who is college educted or a professional. I too am a single parent but I hold 2 master's degree and beginning work on my Phd, as I stated before it's all relative. </p>

<p>Over the next few years, the competition to get into college especially selective schools is going to be really stiff just because of the sheer number of applicanats (this includes URMs). </p>

<p>From the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education </p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/latest/100704_blackenrollment_yale.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/latest/100704_blackenrollment_yale.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yale Tops the Ivy League in Black Freshman Enrollments: </p>

<p>JBHE has completed its annual collection of data on black first-year enrollments at the eight Ivy League colleges and universities. Blacks make up 9.3 percent of the first-year students at Yale University this fall. This is the highest rate in the Ivy League and the highest rate at Yale in the past decade. A year ago, only 6.7 percent of the entering class at Yale was black. </p>

<p>Harvard University also had a good year in attracting black students. There are 145 black freshmen at Harvard this fall. They make up 8.9 percent of the first-year class. </p>

<p>At the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Dartmouth College, blacks make up slightly more than 7 percent of the entering class. At Columbia University and Brown University, blacks are 6.8 percent of the freshman classes. </p>

<p>As has been the case for the past 13 years since JBHE began collecting statistics on black first-year enrollments in the Ivy League colleges, Cornell University has the smallest percentage of blacks in its entering class. This fall blacks are 4.7 percent of the freshman class at Cornell. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/latest/021005_applicant_dartmouth-harvard.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/latest/021005_applicant_dartmouth-harvard.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Black Applicants Surge at Harvard and Dartmouth: </p>

<p>Harvard reported this past week that it received a total of 22,717 applications for the class that will enter this fall. The number of applicants rose by 15 percent from last year's total. Black applications for the freshman class increased at an even higher rate. Harvard reports that black applicants increased 28.3 percent from last year. A university spokesperson stated that the huge jump in applicants may be due to the new Harvard Financial Aid Initiative, which essentially eliminates out-of-pocket tuition and room and board expenses for students who come from families with incomes of less than $40,000 per year. </p>

<p>In the year after the Cornel West controversy, black enrollments dipped slightly at Harvard. Now it appears that Harvard has weathered that storm as well as last summer's controversy surrounding the denial of tenure to African-American studies professor Marcyliena Morgan. This denial of tenure caused Professor Morgan and her husband, Lawrence Bobo, the esteemed sociologist and member of the National Academy of Sciences, to take tenured teaching positions at Stanford. </p>

<p>At Dartmouth College, overall applications surged to their highest level in history. The admissions office reports that applications from "students of color" represented 25 percent of the total pool. Applications from blacks were at their highest level in the past four years. Good evidence that a frigid winter climate does not necessarily deter black applications to a college that is otherwise seen as receptive to black students. </p>

<p>Because there are more applicants applying to both of these schools this year, the 44% admit rate that Blacks got admitted into Dartmouth in the class of 08, is most likely going to decrease for the class decrease this year.</p>

<p>What does this mean overall for blacks; every one has to step up their game as being a URM is still going to be a hook, the pool in this population is going to be more competitive, whith more choices given to those that bring the overall "A" game to the table, as the pool is also participating in more rigerous courses offered by their school.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/latest/022405_advancedplacementcourses.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/latest/022405_advancedplacementcourses.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>*Black Participation in Particular Advanced Placement Courses: *</p>

<p>In 2004 more than 78,000 African-American students took Advanced Placement examinations. Blacks now make up 5 percent of all Advanced Placement test takers nationwide. For both blacks and whites, English literature, American history, English composition, and calculus were the most popular AP courses. Blacks were 6.9 percent of all students who took the AP test in French literature. This was the highest participation percentage for any of the 34 AP subject tests. Blacks were also at least 6 percent of all test takers in the subject areas of English literature, world history, macroeconomics, and French language. </p>

<p>The lowest level of black participation was on the Spanish literature test. Only 56 black students nationwide took the AP test in Spanish literature in 2004. They were only 0.6 percent of all test takers in this subject. Blacks were also less than 2 percent of all AP test takers in the subject areas of electrical and magnetic physics, Spanish language, computer science, and German. </p>

<p>What I would recommend to your cousin, is that he cut back on his EC and concentrate on raising is grades (while there may be a little slack given on the SAT scores, your high school record, rigor of curriculum and rank -for schools that rank are still the number one factor in admissions). he should look into not only taking the most rigerous courses, but doing well in those classes.</p>

<p>Your cousin has a few variables where I feel a good assesment can't be given. Apparently the school weighs grades, he has a weighted scale of 5.23 out of what?
is the 3.56 based on a 4.0 or 4.3? All of this is going to determine how he stacks up to his peers in the applicant pool.</p>

<p>In the end while I believe in the importance of holding on to your dream and he should go for it because in the big scheme of things he is only risking the application and score reporting fees. I strongly advise your cousin to have reach, match , safety schools (which includes a financial safety-if admitted you can attend and you will be able to afford) and rolling admissions school so tha he will have something under his belt.. He should also look at schools where he could be at the top of the applicant pool in line to get merit money (even if this means applying to a lower ranked school. With a strong grades, he should consider throwing is hat at an SAT optional school where his grades will take center stage. Remember that colleges build classes and the mission of the class changes year to year so what got a student into a school last year may not get them into a school this year or next.</p>

<p>All the best</p>

<p>Also keep in mind..</p>

<p>*Black Students Are Beginning to Seize the Early Admission Advantage *</p>

<p><a href="http://www.jbhe.com/features/43_early_admission.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jbhe.com/features/43_early_admission.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>just an excerpt.. read entire article</p>

<p>At the nation's highest-ranked colleges and universities, the percentage of college-bound blacks who apply for early decision has always been far below the black percentage of the total applicant pool. The reason that college-bound blacks generally shun the binding commitments of the early admissions process is that their acceptance commitment cuts them off from the process of negotiating a favorable financial aid package from competing universities.
But JBHE statistics show that black students are now beginning to apply for early admission in much larger numbers.
In past years college-bound blacks have been much less likely than whites to seek early admission to the nation's highest-ranked colleges and universities. African Americans have avoided making the binding commitment to enroll if accepted because the rules of early decision eliminate their chances to "play the field" and consider a wide range of financial offers from competing universities. As a result, blacks have not been able to take advantage of the fact that early decision applicants generally achieve a much higher acceptance rate than applicants who choose to go the regular route. </p>

<p>For African Americans, the early decision process is assuming greater importance for the simple reason that early decision applications now make up a very large percentage of all admissions decisions. For example, this past winter Princeton University admitted 581 students under its binding early decision admissions program. This group is about one half of the freshman class that will enroll at Princeton this coming fall. </p>

<p>Blacks Who Applied for Early Admission in 2004 </p>

<p>JBHE has surveyed the nation's highest-ranked colleges and universities to determine how the controversial issue of early admissions actually affects black access to higher education, particularly admissions to our most selective institutions. JBHE asked each of the nation's 25 highest-ranked universities and the 25 highest-ranked liberal arts colleges for this year's early admissions data. Some of the nation's highest-ranked institutions such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Amherst, Williams, Stanford, Dartmouth, Duke, and Columbia declined to participate in our survey. </p>

<p>We believe that the reason for this reluctance has to do with the fact that at most highly ranked colleges and universities there is only a very small trickle of black early decision applicants. Publication of this shortfall tends to hurt a school's reputation for its commitment to racial diversity. It is likely, although by no means certain, that universities and colleges missing from our statistics have a low percentage of black early applicants.</p>