<p>Sorry my cousin wanted this title....
Anyways, down to bussiness... my scores arent wow amazing or anything in that vicinity...But I'd like honest chances... I just sent in my applicatin and I would just like to see what other people believe my choices are... come on ..you know you want to anyway. Well, here it is....</p>
<p>African American girl - Houston Texas
Class Rank : 1/ 820
GPA W: 4.6 UW: 3.94
SAT: n/a
SAT Subject test: 680 Biology E Taking Math 2 and Physics- expecting over 700... I took both during October and scored a 650 so I have really been studying to raise my score.
ACT: 32
Clubs:
President of: German Club and Science National Honor Society and Culture group that acts as a service organization.
Secretary of Debate Team
Mentor for middle school students
( Created service group called Operation Mentor)
Assitant debate coach for middle school students
Active in local Habitat for Humanity and Red Cross
Outstanding Distinction in Forensics
Awards:
AP Scholar with Distinction
National Achievement Semi- finalist
Questbridge College Prep Winner
Nationally ranked in debate
2- time national qulifier for speech and debate
Qualifed in five events at state tournament last year
A slew of speech and debate awards
district science fair champion in biology
alternate to state in science fair in 9th grade
3rd in a national speech contest
TOC Qualifier for LD and Extemp ( didnt go because of AP exam conflicts)
Persuasive Extemp Qualifier for UIL State
District Champion in Poetry Interpretation
1st place Water Conservation award for science project from Houston's Waste Management Association
Overall Academic Excellence Award- 3 years in a row - but its oinly a school award so I dont know if I'll put it on my common app...</p>
<p>Presented a nationally qualified speech on economics to the Texas Gulf coast council, Presented Poetry to the City of Houston Health and Human services department for Black History Month</p>
<p>Quirks:
I wouldnt say that I am poor because I dont feel that I am poor but rather lower middle class. income under 20,000. My father takes care of my whole family which includes my brother and sister and two young cousins. I have taken on the responsibilities of taking care of my cousins because their father died and they now live with us....</p>
<p>Problem in applicaton:
only two years of foreign language- but I speak two other languages( native languages)
grades show a slight slip in grades in Ap Physics and Calculus.. Im aiming for high B's.</p>
<p>The fact is that you will get in almost anywhere because you have a highly competitive profile - period. 1st out of 800+, 3.94 unweighted - 32 ACT - your extracurriculars! Let your personality shine in your essays and good luck wherever you apply.</p>
<p>Please dont be deceived by shackleton55 comment. You’re a strong candidate for MANY reasons (as ohmadre vividly points out), and you are not assured of a thing based on your race or minority status.</p>
<p>I honestly wish CCers who make such comments would stop. I really do. </p>
<p>Excuse me, my comment was completely valid. 680 650 and 650 on SATIIs are certainly not good scores for a white female coming from the northeast. This is fact. Yes, there are exceptions because admissions officers take a somewhat holistic approach to the applications, but this person would be more like 30 percent (in my estimation) to get in without racial considerations. Yes, 1/820 is certainly impressive, but after seeing the 32 on the ACTs and the subpar SATIIs I would guess that the school is not very strong and take the ranking with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>It’s amazing how ridiculous shackleton55 judgement is. His argument is nothing new on CC and fundamentally flawed—but I’d rather not engage. ;-l</p>
<p>BTW: Nigerian&Proud, a 32 ACT is an Excellent accomplishment, the super-applicant mentality shackleton proposes is very, very flawed, dont be deceived–Just laugh Your rank in amazing as well!</p>
<p>More importantly however, is that you’ve pursued your passion in speech and debate.</p>
<p>And your ECs are amazing. You seem like an awesome person. Dartmouth is always looking at people in their entirety – not just grades or scores – and I agree; I think you have a really good shot.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is always looking at people in their entirety </p>
<p>Those are the key words. Sorry but I have to agree with shackleton55. My daughter is a white female from the northeast. Top of the class, unbelievable ECs. 700 and over on 3 SAT IIs. With a 32 on the ACT her guidance department wouldn’t even put Dartmouth on the list because she would never even get on the table there. She needed 34 or better or over 1500 on SATs to have more than a 0% chance. Then they will at least look at her. Those are the realities for a white female from the northeast. Sad but true. If you don’t believe it you have your head in the sand.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is always looking at people in their entirety and unfortunately race is a factor, both for my daughter and for Nigerian&Proud. This is particularly so at Dartmouth where they have trouble attracting as many minorities as some of the other ivies attract.</p>
<p>Family Income: under 20,000 ( last year 16, 200) ( Dad has to take on part time jobs becuase he is trying to finish his degree in financial accounting)
Other things: 1. single family household
2. two siblings in good colleges
3. Want to major in Bioengineering… my mom died when I was three from nephrotitis and I want to find a way to make life easier for people with this disease… basically anyone who has been on dialysis has some form of nephrotitis.</p>
<p>Clarifications: I know my class isn’t that strong as a whole and therfore my rank may not seem that great in respect to that. Yet look at this:
My classes average SAT and ACT are very much below the national average. My school has lost funding for the arts. 70% of the students at my school have ncomes lower than $40,000. I have to take classes at the neighboring high school because my school doesnt offer that many AP classes. My school doesnt have an SAT prep courses or any college planning courses. </p>
<p>Yet that doesnt mean that trying to be number one in my class…which I think may drop… wasn’t a hard feat. There is a battle for top ten percent at my school even though 82 people would be in the top ten percent because there are about 200 hardworking students in my class. </p>
<p>Yeah I know my scores are “sub-par” in some people’s eyes and I respect that opinion. But the fact of the matter is that the only thing I have to prepare for these tests is what is given on the test administrators website.</p>
<p>1MX, I assume you are asking me. Let’s just say nobody is giving my kids financial aid. And that is a factor as well, as it should be. As are geographical considerations.</p>
<p>Nigerian&Proud is a very good candidate for many reasons including socioeconomic status and race. </p>
<p>And I am not saying that taking race or minority status into account is right or wrong. </p>
<p>All I’m saying is that it is a fact. And anyone who is “tired of such comments” needs a dose of reality. The fact is that even in my school district which is upper middle class, the minority students are given different lists from the white students with the same numbers because their minority status will help them. I am talking about privileged kids who have been given every opportunity. Who have not been at a financial disadvantage. Yet, a minority student from my neighborhood with my D’s transcript and ECs would be applying to H-Y-P. It’s called affirmative action and the Supreme Court has ruled that it is okay. There is a reason that they ask this information on the applications. And not just after you are admitted. There is a reason that even on this board when accepted students post their numbers they list whether they are URM.</p>
<p>DartMom is completely correct. Also, I didn’t take any SAT prep classes or tutors and I got a 2290 so I wouldnt use that as an excuse. I think that it is admirable (Nigerian&Proud) that you have made so much out of such little resources that your school offers and I think admissions officers would see that. However, if you werent a minority and disadvantaged financially, I think that they would prefer a candidate who was at the top of an elite academically-oriented school. With your test scores, one could imagine that the courses you have been taking havent been nearly as difficult as ones at top northeast high schools, where competition is much higher and only the cream of the crop can survive with such a course load.</p>
<p>Here is another fact for all of you to think about. Last spring, Dartmouth accepted approximately 2200 students in order to get a class of about 1100. 41% of the students they accepted were, as they put it, “persons of color”. This cannot be random. They want to be able to say that about one third of their students are “persons of color” and in order to have one third matriculate, they need to accept more than that.</p>
<p>Nigerian&Proud - I agree with Shackleton55 that it is extremely admirable what you have done with the resources you have at your disposal. And I know for a fact that this is something Dartmouth considers - I know students who have been part of conversations with admissions officers regarding what they the school is looking for.</p>
<p>I know that you do realize that when Dartmouth states 41% persons of color it includes with the exception of international students, people who did not report their race or ethnicity, it includes everyone who is not white.</p>
<p>So while the school may have accepted 41% person’s of color, the freshman class consist of approximately ~31% people of color (Native american, asian, black and hispanic)</p>
Your rank in amazing as well!</p>