Will my son get into Brown?

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<p>OK so here are my son’s stats:</p>

<p>He is a senior at a top performing Pennsylvania public school. Here are his AP classes and scores:
Junior Year:
AP Calculus AB - 5
AP Statistics - 5
AP US History - 5
AP Lit and Comp (did not take test)
These are the APs I am currently taking
AP Calculus BC
AP Physics C: Mechanics
AP Biology
AP US Gov
AP Lang and Comp</p>

<p>SAT Score:
2310 (790 math, 790 writing, 730 verbal)
never took the ACT</p>

<p>SATIIs:
750 Math
770 US History</p>

<p>He has a 4.0 gpa at my school (unweighted gpa of 96%) and is currently 12th in my class of about 400.</p>

<p>Extra Curriculars:
He has been playing varsity tennis for my school since his freshman year. He has been a member of his school’s television studio and on a team that fundraises for the American Cancer Society, both since his freshman year. He has been a member of the Interact club since his junior year.
He also did Summer@Brown over the summer of 2013.</p>

<p>Work Experience:
My husband owns restaurants and my son has been working at them since he was in middle school. He has also been working at Kumon since the summer after his sophomore year and has been tutoring middle school students on his own for a few months.</p>

<p>He has also passed two of the exams administered by the Society of Actuaries (I know nobody really knows what these are but they usually aren’t taken until junior or senior year of college, and most people who take the test don’t pass)</p>

<p>He wrote his common app essay about meeting so many different kinds of people while working at the restaurant and he received help from a college essay specialist for all of his essays.</p>

<p>He applied ED to Brown University…I really want to know what you all think about his chances…He’s white, from the mid-atlantic, not first generation or legacy so he doesn’t have any “edge” in that respect…</p>

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<p>First, I think YOU are the student, not the PARENT. Parts of your post refer to you in the first person and parts in the third person. Further, you posted this same stuff on other forums on CC as the student. It is basically a chances post. Those belong in the Chances Forum. </p>

<p>In any case, nobody can tell you if you will get in (which is the name of your thread title). You have a profile that is in the ballpark for Brown. Lots of applicants who are qualified enough to be admitted to Brown are rejected. You have a chance of getting in. Will you get in? Who knows? </p>

<p>EDIT…I responded to the post when it was in the Parent Forum. In the meantime, a moderator moved the original post to the Brown Forum.</p>

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<p>First, good job @soozievt in flushing out the impostor.</p>

<p>Second, is it true that there is a Board policy that “chances posts” belong in a separate forum? I would support that policy and if it exists, would like to see it enforced.</p>

<p>I get it that in choosing a list of schools to apply to, that applicants may want to go through the reach-match-safety process. Most of the information that is relevant to those determinations, at least in terms of majors, SAT, ACT and GPA, is publicly available.</p>

<p>I don’t get it why anyone, after applying, would have a substantive reason for asking people not affiliated with Admissions what their chances for admission might be. At the same time, I guess I can understand that there might be an emotional reason.</p>

<p>I don’t get it why anyone would get emotional comfort from opinions of people who are not affiliated with Admissions about the quality of essays they have not read or activities they have not vetted. What type of dependable research, kinda like the type that is expected in college, would be based on the guesses of diletantes? </p>

<p>I don’t get it why anyone would get emotional comfort from having people not affiliated with Admissions posting admissions stats based on GPA, SAT, or ACT that are publicly available. Seems that this just tends to demonstrate a lack of resourcefulness by the OP in the pre-application stage. Asking about this stuff after the application already has been filed speaks more about the applicant than test scores, GPA and lots of other stuff, I think. </p>

<p>I don’t get it why people not affiliated with Admissions…even those whose darling daughters or dear sons got admitted to college…think they are in position to offer reliable advice about how Admissions will assess essays or activities of strangers or predict anything about Admissions policy not based on publicly available data. Darling daughter or dear son, after all, is one data point.</p>

<p>Anyway, thanks again, Soozievt.</p>

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<p>I think parents like @soozievt‌ who have been through this with their own children and who follow the process closely can offer some nuggets of wisdom that may not be gleaned from the published admissions data. Having a son in high school, I appreciate reading her insight and that of other seasoned CC parents.</p>

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<p>Soozievt is an Independent College Counselor. </p>

<p><a href=“article "How much would you pay to get your kid into Ivy League?" - #75 by soozievt - Parents Forum - College Confidential Forums”>article "How much would you pay to get your kid into Ivy League?" - #75 by soozievt - Parents Forum - College Confidential Forums;

<p>I think readers should give that experience a lot more credence than the experience of a parent who has had a kid or two go through the application process and then offers chances based on things other than published stats.</p>

<p>In particular, Soozievt’s response to the chance-me request in this thread was, </p>

<p>In any case, nobody can tell you if you will get in (which is the name of your thread title). You have a profile that is in the ballpark for Brown. Lots of applicants who are qualified enough to be admitted to Brown are rejected. You have a chance of getting in. Will you get in? Who knows?</p>

<p>Right on! If an Independent College Counselor has this response to a chance-me request, how can those who have been through the process once or twice as a parent or college student (never mind a current applicant!) feel qualified to say more about chances.</p>

<p>Alumnus/alumna interviewers? Most say they are befuddled by which of their interviewees are admitted or rejected.</p>

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<p>Isn’t the competence of independent college counselors all over the board? </p>

<p>I like @Soozievt’s posts because she openly shares her experiences about putting her kids through Brown U. and the NYU Ticsh School. </p>

<p>@fenwaypark, I appreciate your strong opinions about the college admissions process, Brown and other Ivy League schools in general. You’ve piqued my curiosity. What is your connection/experience?</p>

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<p>I suppose that can be said of any profession or other grouping. Standing by my comment that the experience (not competence) of Independent College Counselors should be respected, at least more so than that of people who have been through the process maybe once or twice. You are correct, I believe, that the conclusions drawn from experience still need to be critically evaluated.</p>

<p>I also agree with the corollary that credentials shouldn’t matter too much here. John Brown the tenth could come on the Board and post nonsense, while the Waterman St wino might leave us with pearls of wisdom. We should take what makes sense.</p>

<p>Having said that, I have no affiliation with Brown Admissions or any other college Admissions Office. I am solely responsible for the drivel I post. And as you have pointed out, if the competence of independent college counselors can be all over the place, well I guess so can the competence of parents, alumni, interviewers, students, and applicants who may post up here.</p>

<p>Getting back to the topic, I think my opinion that “chance-me” threads are exercises in futility–especially after the application has been filed–is more of an anodyne than strong opinion, and one that has been voiced on many forums. I am not claiming originality here by any means</p>

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<p>@fenwaypark. All I can think of is Mr. Spock on Star Trek. He never got it either.</p>