<p>I think it's completely unfortunate that just because we abolished ED and had to give out more offers to compensate for the anticipated drop in yield, Princeton has become less "selective" in a sense. I truly believe that Princeton's the BEST undergraduate college in the nation, commensurate with its current USNWR ranking - which many students, especially internationals, unfortunately rely on. Are we likely to drop this year because of ED's abolishment?</p>
<p>First of all, Princeton never had ED, they had EA. ED is binding, whereas EA is not.</p>
<p>Secondly, who cares? Does it really matter if Prince is number one? Two? Three? In terms of the of quality education, there is not much of a difference between number one and number 20.</p>
<p>Stop worrying.</p>
<p>Firstly, Princeton had EA until the 1990s, when it switched to ED.</p>
<p>Secondly, I'm not even worried! Did I sound worried in my post? I just want to know what people think. You may not care, perhaps or perhaps not because that's the politically correct thing to say, but I think it's as valid a conversation topic as any. :) Quit being so uptight and relax, man.</p>
<p>You are being manipulative here, screwitlah...It is obvious that you sounds worried in your post but you denied it (You can't lie to most of the people here since we have or currently studying advanced English Literature which develops high analytical skills. LOL!!!). What is your agenda btw, I am wondering? Interesting...</p>
<p>Anyway, you are right in saying that Princeton stops its ED, not EA.</p>
<p>I have NO agenda. I have nothing to worry about - I'm already in, and I and everyone around me know Princeton's a great school. I'm just a competitive guy and rankings interest me. My world is not going to come crashing down if Princeton drops. Maybe I'll sulk for a day or two if Harvard is #1. If anything, it's just to increase my thread count and start a conversation. Now guys, pleasee relax.</p>
<p>didnt they drop the yield as part of the criteria?
well if it actually were a big part
then the rankings roughly would be HYS (HSY) P, considering that rest of the parts are roughly equal</p>
<p>A school will choose a target admissions rate based on three things:</p>
<ol>
<li>Desired size of freshman class</li>
<li>Number of applicants </li>
<li>Expected yield</li>
</ol>
<p>So even though USNWR doesn't directly consider yield, acceptance rate is considered, and it depends at least in part on yield. I won't be surprised if Princeton drops. I would prefer that we remain in the top three with Harvard and Yale, but apart from that I don't really care.</p>
<p>When do the new rankings usually come out?</p>
<p>Isn't it the "thing" that Harvard, Princeton, and Yale will ALWAYS be top three?</p>
<p>Even if it isn't so, won't the USNWR find some way to manipulate data to make it so?</p>
<p>Worst case scenario:
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Princeton</p>
<p>man who cares? i don't understand why this would even be a concern...</p>
<p>In response to kwu, Caltech was number 1 back in 1999 after a change in criteria and weighting thereof. The statistician responsible for the change soon left the US News, and Princeton topped the list the next year. So yes I don't think it's altogether unlikely that US News will manipulate its data to keep HYP at the top of the list.</p>
<p>^^ that the person promptly left US News the next year seems to be evidence that US News doesn't want radical changes. Just look at the rankings through the years: it's pretty consistent that HYP are ranked in the top 3.</p>
<p>...and this matters because?</p>
<p>Yield isn't a factor in US News anymore. Back when it was considered it was only 2%. As for the "selectiveness" of Princeton, I believe they've said this is their strongest class yet (though I'm sure it's the same at other schools across the nation), so I don't see any real impact. We all know Princeton is #1 in our hearts regardless of what happens :).</p>
<p>i thought US NEWS has a delayed contribution from class statistics like yield. This year should only affect it in 3 years.</p>
<p>Actually, I've heard rumors of something to this effect. Princeton's going to be kicked out of the Ivy League, would-be applicants will withdraw their applications in droves, professors will abandon ship, and Princeton's about to enter into one long slide to the 10th-tier of higher education.</p>
<p>And, yes, it can all be tied to the fateful decision regarding EA/ED. My god what was Tilghman thinking?</p>
<p>yeahhhhhhh</p>
<p>It's in. We're #2. :(</p>
<p>Obviously (and suddenly) the rankings tell nothing about anything!! :P</p>
<p>where are they?</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Duke</li>
</ol>
<p>Bad news for Princeton (especially since the rankings are 2 years delayed and no ED boost for future classes).... good news for MIT...</p>