Agree with another poster about looking harder at privates and any schools in commuter distance - as a parent, I would see more value coming from going to an appropriate private than paying full price for OOS public. Until DDâs stats come up though, she has taken herself off the running for a number of schools dad thinks she should be admitting due to being âamazingâ.
I do think the poster is being honest. What the take-away is from our input, who knows. It would be nice to hear where DD ends up at.
^That program is for the summer before senior year of high school.
It was previously known as the Junior Miss Beauty Pageant. Top prize is $50,000.
Iâm sorry, I had heard about it from a friend and on the website it said something about HS juniors or seniors.
It seems like it is too late now.
^Thatâs what is so frustrating about this thread. He should have posted a year ago!
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wddf stonybrooke is not very highly rated school forbes has it at like #259.
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I agree that going to Stony would seem to be very unimpressive for this DD. Theyâd be better off finding some privates that often discount for decent stats. Many of the Catholics do⊠The dad had a list that included some Catholics like Xavier, Udayton, StoneHill, Duquesne, Providence, LeMoyne, etcâŠ
If she wouldnât mind going to Calif, then St. Maryâs College of California is rural, happy place, and does a LOT of tuition discounting. Itâs a very spirited school.
http://www.stmarys-ca.edu/
@MidwestDad3 Many people wait too long to post because they assume that their childâs stats are high enough to qualify for funds. What people fail to realize at times, is their child may have stellar stats for their school, but their not just competing for money against students from just their school. They are competing with others with similar or better stats. Also, many merit scholarships have early application deadlines that can be easily missed if you wait until the beginning of their senior year to start investigating options.
For small, rural, and inexpensive, what about the following?
Truman State (Missouri)
University of Minnesota - Morris
OP, I know you said that your D is done with testing. However, you mentioned that she did prepâand based on what you said you paid, it sounds like it was a group class. Time is short before applications are due, and your D may be utterly uninterested, but based on your comment that she was running out of time, I think sheâd really benefit from a few sessions with a private SAT/ACT coach. This would be someone who could look at how your D is going about answering questions, and then could help her with better test-taking strategies.
Not cheap, but for the payoff (in terms of merit eligibility) it could be excellent ROI. The big problems are that you donât have much time for her to prep, and your D isnât interested.
Another option which blossom mentioned is taking a gap year and then (re)applying in next yearâs admissions cycle. If your Dâs admissions results and merit results arenât to her and your liking, thatâs another path to consider.
OP actually did not do âeverything rightâ. Both parents are engineers, their daughter seems to be weak in Math. Assuming that parents can solve any SAT problem themselves why not spend time preparing their daughter for the SAT. Maybe there is still time for this one last try. For the ACT Math and Science sections can be greatly improved with practice.
My daughter is actually very similar, her social and organizational skills are ahead of her raw brain power. But knowing what is at stake she was able to buckle up, sit on her butt and study hard. I prepped my daughter myself. We spent many unpleasant evenings together socializing with the SAT Blue Book.
Do not get me even started on how it is even possible for an upper middle class NJ native English speaker without LD with college educated parents to get less than 2000 on the SAT. UW GPA 3.6? My âfuture CEOsâ would be permanently locked in the broom closet.
LOL. Some parents can have successful tutoring sessions with their children. Some canât. There would have been no way that D2 wouldâve benefitted from prepping with me. Thatâs why we got her a tutor. It saved us a fortune in murder one defense attorney charges 
But you forgot prestigious and ranked. A name brand.
^^This . I was just about to write something similar about my DS - likable, sociable, well organized, mature etc But his standardized test scores over the years never matched up with all of that. Same NJ demographic as @CCDD14 .
He too realized what was at stake, and spent this summer with the SAT Blue book and a couple of other guidebooks for the SAT . I helped with both the CR and math . Scoring consistently in the 1900-2000 range, which is a HUGE improvement considering where he started, so fingers crossed for this Saturdayâs SAT.
Yes, it can be hazardous to the parent-child relationships. But if the child is not given other options she will have to suck it up. On the other hand it is very time efficient and economical option. You can work around your childâs busy schedule and provide as much support as needed. Nobody will take care of your kid better than the parent.
It is all about their priorities. They need to want it themselves. Both my kids begged me to help them at some point.
But isnât it already established that the studentâs stats make it unlikely for her to even be admitted to a high-prestige school?
Just an FYI - OPâs daughter would be in the middle 50% at Stony Brook. So, while it is not âprestigiousâ, I would argue it is potentially a good fit just based on test scores. I am guessing this would be the case at Geneseo, as well.
I donât know a single thing about OP or his daughter other than what has been conveyed.
It could well be she could have studied harder and done better. Itâs probably even likely.
But I donât think itâs fair to say that every higher socioeconomic kid from NJ with engineering parents should get better grades/score higher in math on standardized tests. Thatâs a pretty broad generalization.
This was not exactly what was said. This demographics has access to better public schools, money for tutoring and enrichment ECs, no need for the child to work and in this particular case an additional advantage of being able to help with math and possibly even better genetics :-*
I grew up in a mathy/engineering type of home and was always abysmal in math, so no amount of genetics and tutoring (every night at one point during HS) is a magic bullet. I didnât grow up in a PC community so nobody bothered to ask if there were LDâs (if theyâd even heard of the term back then).
But my parents were prepared to work two or three jobs at a time to pay for whichever college their kids could get into/make their academic goals a reality. The question of ROI was not on the table- they had a fundamental belief that investing in your own intellectual capital was the very best type of investment (and given my familyâs history as refugees, immigrants, etc, was the only kind of capital that didnât go away when you got invaded, kicked out, or shoved onto a cattle car).
Iâm a little baffled by folks who can pay full freight but want their kids to have âskin in the gameâ by taking out big loans. But whatever, I do see their point, especially if their kids tend towards slacker/socializers. This might keep the kid focused on academics.
But not to permit a talented, ambitious, highly focused future CEO type to take out loans??? This I donât get. If nobody is questioning the kids motivations for wanting to go to college, what better reason to take out loans than to bridge the gap between what the parent feels is a rational contribution from them vs. what college actually costs?
This thread has kind of strayed from the initial âname brandâ question, because from that question I inferred that the father wanted a name brand at a reasonable price. He later let us know that even if Yale of Columbia were free, his daughter couldnât attend because of the areas, and later still that she wouldnât pick Harvard, anything in DC, Atlanta, or Chicago because she doesnât want to live in a city.
Iâve kind of lost which schools he thinks are name brand but meet all the other requirements and that will admit her, and what name brand means to OP and daughter. The list he posted (Clemson, Miami of Ohio) seem fine.