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<p>@Demosthenes49: It’s nice to find something upon which we agree.</p>
<p>“Since you clearly don’t know what you are talking about, I will clue you in on a little (not so) secret, partners interview at their alma maters.”</p>
<p>Very rarely. It is much more common for associates to be sent out to the top law schools to conduct interviews. Even if a partner does interview at his alma mater that isn’t a top-tier school, it would be very rare to take on more than one or two students. </p>
<p>You have 16 posts on this forum, TexasMom, and most of what you say contradicts the data, common sense, and what many of us have seen in the profession.</p>
<p>Yes, I am new to CC. Someone directed me here from another site because my son is a high school junior thinking of applying to Ivy’s. </p>
<p>A lot of what I’ve read in CC is pretty outlandish and ridiculous. Not all of life is fixed in NYC. Plenty of people have perfectly successful careers at highly reputable firms/companies without going to an Ivy league school and working in NYC. But you wouldn’t know that from CC. So I’m not surprised that my observations from real life practice of law doesn’t mesh with your fixed dogma here. </p>
<p>Feel free to disregard any facts that do not identically match your specific life observations and go back to your collective groupthink.</p>
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<p>don’t take it personally. </p>
<p>Like a lot of life (popular press, econ, politics), cc tends to be northeast-centric. Part of that focus is due to demographics (large population concentrations) and part is that is due to the fact that the bulk of the highly selective private colleges reside in the NE, particularly surrounded by instate publics are not highly ranked/well thought of/desired (unlike say, UT-Austin).</p>
<p>Beyond that, cc offers a wealth of other good info.</p>
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<p>Neither am I, since "[real</a> life practice](<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence]real">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence)" gives you only statistically meaningless conclusions. Broad employment data, on the other hand, as earlier I extensively provided, is not subject to the same inherent flaws and unreliability. That is why when assessing risk we use surveys and tables and not individual stories about that one guy you knew from Baylor (or whatever). </p>
<p>You’re absolutely right that “[p]lenty of people have perfectly successful careers at highly reputable firms/companies without going to an Ivy league school and working in NYC.” You’re absolutely wrong in thinking that’s relevant or helpful. Plenty of people make money playing the lottery. That doesn’t change the expected value or if you should play. That’s especially true today since those people with the careers you mentioned graduated law school in a time other than the Great Recession when tuition was a fraction of what it is and the supply of lawyers nowhere near as high. </p>
<p>You can attempt to recharacterize “reliance on evidence” as “dogma” if you want. You claim to be a lawyer, so I’ll let you decide how persuasive you think that will be.</p>
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<p>Admittedly you’ve been here longer than I have, but I haven’t noticed we’re all that northeast-centric. I know I’m not since I’ve neither lived in the northeast nor have any desire to. Rather, it’s often that the people who come here want to end up employed as lawyers and the northeast happens to be where the vast majority of jobs are. For those interested in other places, the data provides answers on where to go to school too. It’s just that the question is less-often asked.</p>
<p>TexasMom: </p>
<p>On the previous page, I said this:
So I’m unclear as to why you’re giving me a lecture about being a narrow-minded, northeast-centric, dogmatic thinker, but it obviously has nothing to do with what I’ve said or any advice I’ve given.</p>
<p>Now, I went to law school in the South, so let me talk Southern to you, honey: bless your heart. Bless your little heart, honey. </p>
<p>But I must say, thank you for proving my point about the lack of T14s within a thousand miles of Texas. Duke is 1,003 miles away from Texarkana, TX (i.e. the closest point in Texas), and UVA is 1,033 miles away form Texarkana. So I feel that it’s safe to say that there are no T14s (by the traditional, not ATL, rankings) within about a thousand miles of Texas.</p>
<p>cccblues, my advice is consider a career plan b and plan c along with law school. Demosthenes49’s posts in particular are chock full of relevant statistics about the difficult job prospects for graduating law students. Read some of the links he has provided, especially Law School Transparency. My son thought he wanted to go to law school, but also had a plan b as a business major from Texas Tech. He pursued his plan b and got a position with a Fortune 250 oil field services company. Five years later he is still very much likes his job; has zero debt from college; and his company is paying 100% for his MBA at night school. He has no regrets about skipping law school. Don’t put all your eggs into the law school basket. Read and re-read Demosthenes49’s posts.</p>