<p>snuffles no Vietnamese are not an URM. You need to check your facts. The percent of Vietnamese in major schools exceed the percent of vietnamese in the U.S populaiton. Vietnamese are not an URM.</p>
<p>Chinese and Korean</p>
<p>In my opinion Yale is a rather big school, but there are only 2 vietnamese at the moment, chinese 301 and korean 152</p>
<p>Deference please go back to that page and read what it says. It says VIETNAMESE NATIONALS, not two Vietnamese students. There is a big difference difference. It is people like you, that cause the spread of false information.</p>
<p>In fact Vietnamese are well over represented at Yale. Remember Vietnamese make up only .5% of the U.S population. Thus Yale student body of 5300 undergrad students one would only expect 26-27 Vietnamese students. But there are a whole lot more than that at Yale.</p>
<p>I would say being Chinese would throw you into the most competition.</p>
<p>...sometimes being asian actually helps -- as it does in case of LACs.<br>
However, no help at national universities :(</p>
<p>so would it be better to leave that section blanck or would that represent a hidden meaning behind the appicant...for example UC's</p>
<p>im asian indian, im still confused if we're considered asian, because on the application it says (east indian/pakistan)</p>
<p>sooo yeah...</p>
<p>I guess the whole "Asian" category is quite competetive in itself, since Asians are generally strong in maths&sciences but perhaps with less ECs. Their test scores and academic results are usually very high, so having something "extra" factors is crucial in getting admitted top colleges.</p>
<p>why was I born a Chinese? :( so i will have a hard time getting into a university?</p>
<p>What about half asian/half caucasion? I've always been confused about what I should fill out in the ethnicity area when I do my apps. The fact that my mother was born in the Phillipines and the culture I've learned from her, my grandmother, and my great grandmother has hugely impacted my life, much more so than my father's side of the family.</p>
<p>So should I mark off Asian/Pacific Islander?</p>
<p>Quote taken from RAMJAG:
credit; <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-80312.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-80312.html</a></p>
<p>"Well, I think people in this day and age tend to romanticize the aspect of race; that is, a lot of people tend to think it will give them THE edge to get into college. While some races may have advantages, I doubt that it's so much of an advantage that colleges would flat out pick person X over Y without an in-depth evaluation. As far as your problem is concerned, I doubt it will hurt your chances, may help it, but in most cases, it will probably not have an affect since asians are not an underrepresented minority. I went through that same exact process at one point in time since I am also asian, so I think you should just check the box and move on to the more important aspects of your app (e.g. essay)."</p>
<p>I agree with him/her. ^^ I don't think you guys should stress so much over the issue of race. Some may have its advantages, but the advantages aren't so great that colleges aren't going to decide to accept you over just this factor. Worry more about other stuff such as your essays, reccomendation letters, etc.</p>
<p>Chinese
Koreans
Japanese
Indians
Pakistanis</p>
<p>is that really true snuffles..so is filipino underrepresented at universities?</p>
<p>imacrazy it is not true.</p>
<p>While I cannot speak for all universities, it is my personal experience at Tufts that attention is given to the specific ethnic background and the challenges that one has to overcome in the admissions process. And to answer your question, yes, filipinos are underrepresented at most US elite universities. In fact, it is currently smallest minority (not sure out of just the asian group or of all minorities), but alas, affirmative action is no longer overtly (hah!) practiced in UC undergraduate admissions. I view "comprehensive review" as a way to partially supplement the loss in ethnic diversity. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.modelminority.com/printout712.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.modelminority.com/printout712.html</a>
Stanford also takes into account of student diversity on campus as well. It is not empirical evidence, but it suggests that there is strong selection in bolstering the equality of asian applicants to the Stanford applicant pool: </p>
<p>"Further, these groups were proud to announce that the numbers of students of Filipino and Vietnamese descent admitted had hit an all-time high, almost doubling the total number of admits on campus from these ethnicities.</p>
<p>We can celebrate the growing number of Asian-American students, but we must address the fact that between the Vietnamese, the Filipino, the Indian, the Chinese, the Cambodian communities indeed, between all of the Asian-American subgroups there exist strong differences in not only culture, but in socioeconomic demographics. These socioeconomic demographics reveal barriers to the attainment of higher education barriers that are progressively being broken down through youth outreach and the admissions policies adhered to by the University and numerous other educational institutions."</p>
<p>From a medical school viewpoint...
In 2004, the American Medical Colleges Association voted to expand the definition of under represented minorities from the traditional four conglomerate groups to the relative percentage of physicians of that particular ethnicity. "Underrepresented in medicine means those racial and ethnic populations that are underrepresented in the medical profession relative to their numbers in the general population." Colleges have long been trying to increase diversity in the student body populations, thus reforms are in progress at admissions at the undergraduate level to eliminate the all-encompasing "asian, african-american, white" conglomerates.</p>
<p>Snuffles you have your information mixed up. The ending of AA has dramatically increased Filipino and Vietnamese enrollment in the UC, while comprehensive review threatens to lower it. Second you are misinformed if you think Filipino Americans and Vietnamese are underrepresented at most elite schools. Sadly mininformed.</p>
<p>Oh I never said that UC was improving its diversity with comprehensive review, quite the opposite. You misinterpreted my facetious comment. Also, I would like some proof where you claim that Filipino Americans and Vietnamese Americans are not underrepresented in elite universities. If anything, elites are trying to find MORE students of south asian ethnic backgrounds that have crossed socioeconomic boundries. I know that Tufts actively practices affirmative action in this matter, thus dispoving your point by simple refutation of a counterexample. Vanderbilt and Notre Dame are ravenously trying to increase their minority matriculation rates, especially asian americans. If I am so sadly misinformed, please provide evidence?</p>
<p>I think it's Chinese, Indian, Korean, Japanese, in order of difficulty</p>
<p>@Untilted:
"why was I born a Chinese? so i will have a hard time getting into a university?"</p>
<p>Haha I sometimes feel the same way as you because I'm Asian Indian, but I feel as though it's a way to really stick out. The typical Asian stereotype is high standardized test scores and high aptitude in math/science, so with that in mind, figure a way to really stick out so the colleges say "hey, this kid is really unique."</p>
<p>@CryingIvy:
Thanks for the credit; it's a "he", btw :-).</p>