<p>Oedipus by that definition Whites would be considured an URM at the U of Cal.</p>
<p>Snuffles if only 0.5% of the Nation is Vietnaemse to expect the same number of Chinese applicants and Vietnamese applicants is rediculous given chinese outnumber vietnamese by more than 10 to 1.</p>
<p>Also when University of California abolished AA the number of Vietnamese at its top campuses like UCLA and Cal grew significantly.</p>
<p>Snuffles if only 0.5% of the Nation is Vietnaemse to expect the same number of Chinese applicants and Vietnamese applicants is rediculous given chinese outnumber vietnamese by more than 10 to 1.</p>
<p>Yes, I understand that, but it doesn't support your earlier argument that they aren't beneficiaries of university diversity selection.</p>
<p>Yes it does, since when schools end AA the number of Vietnamese admited increases, substantially. You have offered no proof they benifit.</p>
<p>If Asians out number whites at the University of California then they, the white student body, are indeed an URM. You don't have to be non-white or speciffically black, NA, or Hispanic to be considered an URM.</p>
<p>If you look up the 2000 California census, almost 60% of the population of California is white whereas only 11% of the population is Asian. Then take into account that 41% of the student body at the U of C at Berkley is Asian whereas only 31% of the student body is white.</p>
<p>Yes it does, since when schools end AA the number of Vietnamese admited increases, substantially. You have offered no proof they benifit.</p>
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<li>As I've said before, the benefits are publically announced, if not somewhat observable in the data. Just because you say that the numbers increase at one institution (which you have also offered no proof) does not mean that students of Vietnamese origin do not benefit (causality is not proven). The simple result is that if there are a higher number of vietnamese students at a college than average, then the school is actively accepting and giving these students an advantage, are they not? Also, by accepting more students of the southern asian background, it is more likely that they are giving preference to those who are of a lower socioeconomic status (which the averages among the different ethnicities are very significant). I believe it is a mixture of class and race selection. Please provide some sort of tangible proof. I have gone out of my way to find sources. If you continue to make broad generalized statements, please do so with something that we can substantiate it with!
Also, are you suggesting that being Vietnamese works against one's chances of admission? I hardly find that plausible!</li>
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<p>wait how do you change your ethnicity</p>
<p>Snuffles the benifits are not publically annouced. Your logic is foolish, by your logic if a institute has a large number of white students then they activily seeking out white students and giving preference to whites. You have offered no proof for what you have said. Also I am making a negative statement you are making a postive statement. You need to prove your statement.</p>