<p>Don’t stress out, it’s not all over. If they send this incident to colleges, you have a chance to explain yourself.</p>
<p>I know someone who cheated on a statewide administered exam using a cell phone and was caught. School notified his colleges, but he was still accepted EA to chicago</p>
<p>I sure it was a lapse of judgment, panic, whatever.
Did you apologize to the teacher? A private apology would be nice considering you still have a few months left in the classroom.
No, do not get a LOR from that teacher.
You will have to explain it to selective schools, but you write mainly how it changed you, your attitude and the lessons you learned.</p>
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<p>If something like this happens in college I think you will find they are very unforgiving. They don’t put up with it. When it happens in high school they will probably be more lenient.</p>
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<p>Yes. I also am having a hard time listening to the OPs excuses and trying to talk around what he or she did.</p>
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<p>And don’t go to your teacher and try to work something out, as some of the other posters have suggested. You did it, just accept your punishment and move on.</p>
<p>This shouldn’t change your plans for college applications. Apply to reach schools, matches and safeties, which you would have needed to do anyway. Good luck to you.</p>
<p>The Admissions Committees of the schools to which you apply will ask you if you have been disciplined? You will have to answer them. You will have to express yourself as clearly as you have on this post. This will hurt you with some schools.</p>
<p>There are a lot of high GPAs and high test scores. Not everyone gets in to the top schools because there are not enough spots.</p>
<p>You are a smart kid and you will get a good education somewhere.</p>
<p>You might want to invest a little time to learn why you did it (there was nothing to gain). If you find out, that might need fixing. Could end up being more important than where you do your undergraduate work.</p>
<p>I’m not making excuses – I fully recognize that I cheated and that it’s wrong (that goes without saying). I’ve already taken full responsibility and have no doubt in my mind that I will still be able to pull an A for the semester (even without the five points our AP classes are weighted). I already wrote a private apology to my teacher and he said that he still considers me one of his top students and that a temporary lapse in judgment won’t change that. The same with the other teachers who know about it: they all know that people make mistakes and they told me that I’m still one of their favorite students.</p>
<p>The violation won’t go on my permanent record, but it does go on a file that colleges can see only if they ask about it (which they won’t unless the college application asks specifically for disciplinary action). </p>
<p>Obviously I will have a chance to explain myself, and the faculty advisor for the HC told me point-blank that it won’t ruin my chances to get into a college, especially because I’ve had no previous offenses for anything (nor will I ever, I assume) and the rest of my transcript and resume looks great, especially coming from a difficult and intsensive college prep school that has a reputation most colleges know about.</p>
<p>In addition, the director of my school told me that any teacher that mentions the offense on my recommendation letters will fully vouch for me and explain how I handled the situation with maturity and definitely learned my lesson.</p>
<p>I’m not worried about it, to be honest – I’ll take the zero, salvage my grade (because I already have an A in that class to begin with), do my detention and then move on.</p>
<p>And since my panic has been assuaged, would a moderator mind removing this topic?</p>
<p>At most schools, honor code violation will be part of the student’s permanent record. Your guidance couselor is obligated to address it in his or her report. And you will have to address it in the admissions process. This was a serious lapse in judgement and will have consequences, despite what other students may be telling you. The fact that you admitted your guilt and are taking responsibility for your actions bodes well for you. But this is a very serious offense.</p>
<p>@tum I would advise against it. This is a great resource for someone else in the same situation. If needed, come back on CC with a new username, but let this thread lie here.
Goodluck!</p>
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<p>I already said it’s not part of my permanent record – colleges won’t see it unless they ask for it. I know it will have consequences, I know it’s serious, and I know my college advisor will have to address it in his letter. But as I have already stated, all of my teachers will vouch for me and they have already told me it will not be as serious a factor as I anticipated it would be (considering I cried about it for several hours yesterday and almost had an actual panic attack over it thinking I wouldn’t get into college).</p>
<p>@gary7: Then could you at least lock it? I’ve already had my teachers’ assurances as well as many opinions from people on this forum, and I don’t want any more people telling me things I already know. I’d prefer not to dwell on it so the weight of it doesn’t drag me down and ruin the rest of my year.</p>
<p>Really, apparently at Millburn High School, a very highly rated public HS in NJ, they dont even put suspensions on college applications. </p>
<p>I still think parents are better to negotiate this with school.</p>
<p>oh man tumnus1031, i feel your pain. i’m a junior with a 4.5. I had the same lapse in judgment as you did. now, my latin teacher is a really, really bad teacher. during ap week she was blasting my ap latin class with tests so she could “prepare” us for the last ap. i had ap stat later in the day and was just overwhelmed. i hid my notes underneath the quiz. too bad for me, my teacher is a cold, cold person even though i did have the best grade in the class. i spoke with the vice principal and it went on my permanent record. however, my school uses the First Academic Integrity Violation as a “warning” she said. it doesn’t get reported to colleges or teachers, even though teachers can see it if they want to take 10 min out of their schedule. however, the GC is my problem. first, she probably HAS to look at my record to comment on whether my grades reflect my academic ability. So i don’t know what the outcome will be. i’m highly accomplished with extracurriculars and my recs will be fantastic(providing they dont know about the violation). so im in the same boat as you, just wanted to let you know. good luck.</p>
<p>can someone help, i was forced to sit in the office during 4th period. does this count under the Common App question for GC’s of “Has the applicant ever been found for a disciplinary violation at your school from 9th grade forwards, whether related to academic misconduct or behavioral misconduct, that resulted in the applicant’s probation, suspension, removal, dismissal, or expulsion from your institution?”</p>
<p>That is absolutely ridiculous. If colleges are notified of this you really should take it up with someone. In my high school practically everyone cheats (I don’t, but i know that most do or have at some point) and barely anyone gets caught. Even if they do the punishment isn’t that severe. You shouldn’t have cheated but your school/teacher is making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be. In my opinion it’s really unfair. Don’t feel so bad about it! You sound like a mature and responsible person despite one silly mistake, and it sounds like you’ve learned from that.</p>
<p>The common app asks if you have ever had a disciplinary offense, so if you apply to any schools using the common app you are obligated to mention it (if you play by the rules)</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>“disciplinary offense”??? Does that include detentions? I thought that only meant suspensions and expulsions.</p>
<p>Not detentions, but if something has to go in front of the honor council, it might be a big deal. I’m not really sure, I just remember that from the common app. Perhaps they elaborate more in the description.</p>
<p>[I still think parents are better to negotiate this with school.]</p>
<p>As a parent, I would like to think that you are old enough to handle this situation yourself. On the parent forum, we talk a lot about “helicopter parenting” and how kids need to be responsible for their own actions. While I would support my S emotionally, I would also expect him to take his punishments. Parents that get kids out of trouble deny them the gift of truly learning from their mistakes.</p>
<p>"Have you spoken to your parents? They will be dissappointed, but you need them on your side. The GPA is a problem, but if it goes on your record it can be much worse.</p>
<p>With all due respect, I dont agree with Mrdskill.:</p>
<p>I always told my kids that if they did wrong, I would still love them, but I wouldn’t try to save them from facing the consequences of their actions. I also told them that I’d rather that they get bad grades than to cheat to get better ones. I wouldn’t have intervened if my kids had cheated.</p>