Even then he is in the minority… what has been published in any textbooks across the country is not crude and demeaning regarding gender identity.
@okon2122 Fair enough. Still, based on his theories, I don’t think it’s something Princeton ought to be looking for in their student body. If it will help me get accepted, I have no moral hesitations about saying I’m one of those.
You have to keep in mind AdComs have read literally thousands and thousands of essays, and they do a pretty good job of detecting authenticity. You might come across as fraudulent. I would go ahead and go to your state’s flagship, or whatever has the best your major here program. Your state will accept you and give you merit aid.
Seems to me the whole tenor of this thread violates Terms of Service. And leaves a nasty taste in mouth.
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And, you should keep in mind schools DO rescind applicants. If they admitted you on basis of transgenderism, and they find you’re not, you can get into huge trouble.
@okon2122 Yeah, but by doing that they’d have to admit that they only admitted me because I said I was transgender. I don’t think they want to do that, even if it actually did make a difference. Plus, aren’t people encouraged to question their identities now? I’ll just say I was genuinely questioning, and thought at the time I really was. They can’t say anything.
@StannistheMannis First, I think you would be incapable of writing an authentic sounding essay dealing with your “struggle.”
Second, I only think it would be a hook if an applicant actually fought to gain rights/ acceptance for transgender students–or at least was a champion of gender/ sexuality diversity.
So really, saying you are transgender isn’t the point. Fighting for their rights IS the point. And you don’t need to be transgender to do that. That would be a much better hook. But I imagine it’s a little too late in the game for that.
It’s not a hook. It won’t help anyone in the least, if they aren’t highly qualified. Ok? Try to remember there are thousands of qualified kids, including URMs. They aren’t looking for unusual bullets and ignoring the fact this a competitive four year experience. Applies also to kids who ‘fight for rights.’
OP is way off.
You do realize that 40 percent of homeless teens are LGBT when they make up only 5 percent of the general population. They ask these questions because LGBT youth are less likely to be supported by their parents and likely aren’t having college payed for. You really are speaking from a place of privilege. I don’t think you realize how hard it is for anyone to go through college when they lack support. LGBT students are also more likely to suffer from depression, anxiety, and other mental illnesses lowering their overall GPA. You said “should they really be rewarding these thoughts and behaviors?”, but this isn’t a reward and gender isn’t just a “thought and behavior.” The colleges are trying to gauge how they can better support all of their students and if they need to increase funding for the LGBT centers and resources on campus. You are so immature that I don’t even know why you think you’d fit in at HYPS. Schools like that tend to be pretty liberal when it comes to social acceptance. Stanford actually has one of the top LGBT centers in the U.S. It’s also pretty close to San Francisco, which is a major gay hub. You know people have DIED over the intolerance of their local communities/families in regards to their sexual orientation and gender identities. I feel like you are just taking a massive dump on all of their graves and making a mockery about the daily struggles of people all over the world. I would highly suggest that you change your attitude and start volunteering with an LGBT center.
The original poster of this thread’s attitude towards transgender people is very harmful. As a transgender college applicant, I’ve listed myself as transgender on all my apps, not because it provides any “hook”, but because my applications must list my “legal” gender and I have to additionally clarify that I’m transgender so they know who I actually am.
However, this also poses a risk for me, because what if the person who reads my app decides to reject me on the basis of being transgender even if I’m otherwise qualified? Yes, some schools have non-discrimination policies that cover gender identity and expression, but since college applications are so “holistic” they can easily pass it off as rejecting me for any other reason.
“I’m sure that without this affirmative action, very few transgender people would actually be smart enough to get into a HYPS school.” …You really need to step back and take a look at what you’re saying. I’ll give you one example: Ben A. Barres is a transgender man who got his BS at MIT, his MD at Dartmouth, and his PhD at Harvard, and he’s currently the Chair of the Neurobiology department at Stanford University’s School of Medicine. How’s that for not “actually smart enough”? He is not an anomaly. There are plenty of accomplished and educated transgender people. Many of them don’t feel they can share their transgender status with the public because of the discrimination that they face.
Look, if a college wouldn’t accept you when you don’t say you’re transgender, saying that you are isn’t going to make them accept you or give your application a “boost”. Even if it would, I don’t think they’re looking for the kind of people who would exploit the disadvantaged position of transgender people in society for their own benefit.
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Adcoms don’t assume whether or not there is family support. Ime, they realize many kids are LGBT or questioning and that this crosses many socio-economic lines. No one should over-interpret the question. Admissions isn’t really the point at which a U would evaluate the need for support programs.
If anything, adcoms are very clued into teen behavior; they deal with kids all year, year in and year out. I will agree OP shows a lack of understanding of both the identity and how admissions works.
I would rather keep such a person away from LGBT centers.
*I am closing this thread as I don’t think there is any further benefit to be had. It could be a prank thread; as is often the case it is hard to say. Which is exactly why I am not deleting the thread entirely. Assuming the OP is not pranking us: As misguided as I would then consider him to be, this issue is new enough to still have a huge number of people that have archaic notions regarding the issues involved, which are numerous. Hopefully his statements and the rebuttals involved will inform others in a constructive manner.
However, as always, no matter how vile or misguided you think the statements of another member to be, answering them in an uncivil manner is not the way to handle it. Disagree civilly, and/or report the any violations you think have occurred. You can report people as being troIls if you want, you just can’t use that word on the public boards. We didn’t ban it because it doesn’t happen, we banned it because we are trying to discourage people just getting into insults and name calling instead of reporting such posts.*