WUSTL Olin vs. NYU Stern

<p>Hey guys, I gotta decide between Olin and Stern.</p>

<p>I am thinking of double majoring in finance and international business and taking minor in economics.</p>

<p>Please provide information in terms of: </p>

<p>job opportunity
average income
recognition("school name value")</p>

<p>Thanks guys,
Have a nice day</p>

<p>Also, please provide some information regarding academic programs(finance, international business, and economics)</p>

<p>jeongmokoo - I don’t know how to say this without sounding harsh, but you are looking at this all wrong. It makes no sense to try and evaluate a school on the parameters you describe, because those things are far more about the individual than the school they went to. Sure there are stats that can be cited, but they are meaningless. Do you really think that companies decide what a position pays based on where you went to school? Or that you will have a better chance at the higher paying position based on going to Wash U or NYU? I have been hiring people for years and as long as they went to a decent school, I and everyone I know hires based on how capable the candidate seems, not where they went to school, even if it is Harvard. Especially undergrad. Job opportunity is also way more about you than it is about where you went to school.</p>

<p>Forget all that stuff you asked and decide which school fits you better. I won’t even get into what happens if you decide this isn’t really what you wanted and that a different major suits you better. Do you really want to be in NYC? If yes, then OK, it is an easy decision. Or would you be happier on a classic college campus in a somewhat more laid back (but still very challenging!) atmosphere? That and about a dozen other questions like that are what you should be asking. You will come out of either school with a solid business education, assuming you stay with that. Go where you will fit in best and enjoy things most.</p>

<p>fallenchemist, thanks for your answers
I appreciate them!</p>

<p>As a current Olin student, I will say that Stern that is probably more highly recognized. Part of it comes from the fact that it is in NYC and recruiters don’t have to go very far to go there and Wall Street is so close by. More graduates of Stern take i-banking jobs, etc.</p>

<p>With that said, I think student quality itself is better than Stern. I have friends who turned down Stern to come to Olin because they liked certain aspects of WashU more than NYU (flexibility to study across different schools, focus on undergrad teaching, smaller class sizes, professors and senior faculty get to know undergrads, etc.) And people at WashU do go onto top jobs in consulting, finance, etc.</p>

<p>jeongmokoo, building on fallenchemist’s comment, the college experience you will have at Stern and Olin are dramatically different. You really need to think about what you are looking for out of the next four years. WashU will give you a “traditional” college experience with a beautiful campus and a rich campus life. NYU is a real city school with no campus at all, but NYC at your doorstep. Are you looking for “college life” or " NYC city life"? You really need to consider this as you make your decision because the reality is that while Stern might have a “better name” on Wall Street, undergraduate business degrees only get you so far. If you are really looking for “big names and big money jobs” you are going to have to get an MBA anyway.</p>

<p>The schools are very similar for many “paper-based” criteria: Average starting salary (both between $55k - $60k), faculty student ratio, average incoming test scores, and academic quality.</p>

<p>The biggest difference is going to be Location (middle of a city, versus a traditional college campus in a medium sized city) and Student Body size. Not all 18 year olds are ready to start living in the middle of NYC in a school with 19,000 other undergraduates and no “campus”. NYU’s Stern school has over 2,000 undergrads alone.</p>

<p>I personally feel that Wash U has that perfect balance between city/suburban, medium sized student body, medium sized city, and plenty of opportunities within a tighter-knit feeling student body.</p>

<p>If you are debating at all whether you want the “NYC experience” then NYU may not be right for you at this point in your life. I feel that the “NYC experience” is something you need to be 100% excited to do. Certainly, there are many people who really want to do that right after high school, but I think you need to be absolutely ready to start living in NYC at so young. You can always do graduate school there later (which most people tend to agree that your MBA school is more important than Undergrad school… and Wash U undergrad is ranked #1 for “MBA feeder school”) </p>

<p>Please keep in mind that there are lots of other Finance jobs besides companies with an address on Wall Street. You can do Finance in any other city, the major I-Banks and Finance firms have offices all around the country , and many people do analysis/investing/finance for large corporations like GE or Microsoft for example. I don’t quite get what the appeal of working directly on Wall Street is. Sure, there are both Wash U and NYU grads represented in those companies on the Street of Wall, but that is possibly the WORST place to be working right now, anyway. </p>

<p>Just my two cents.</p>