Yale, anti-ROTC?

<p>I put in my application that I am planning to do army ROTC. What is the attitude from faculty/students of Yale towards ROTC? Do they have military guys? Are they supportive or against people doing ROTC?</p>

<p>Also it seems all the other ivies hate military too...</p>

<p>I hope you don't mind the 1.5 hour commute to and from U Conn for that. That's where the facilities are. </p>

<p>Like most Ivies, Yale kicked ROTC off-campus because of its stance on Don't Ask, Don't Tell.</p>

<p>Not quite. Most Ivies kicked ROTC off campus long before "don't ask, don't tell", which was implemented during the Clinton Administration. ROTC was excluded back in the Vietnam era because of the power of leftist, anti-war faculty and the temerity of more reasonable and patriotic people to speak up. President Obama has urged his alma mater, Columbia, to change it's position but its unlikely the faculty will budge. While some Ivy faculty now use the military's policy concerning gays as an excuse to keep voting against ROTC--it is just an excuse. When that policy changes (and it likely will soon), I guarantee that the faculties will still keep ROTC out.</p>

<p>By the way--there are excellent schools (as good or better than the Ivies) which do have ROTC on campus and support it strongly---Johns Hopkins and Duke come to mind but there are others.</p>

<p>Cornell has ROTC on campus.</p>

<p>I don't know about Yale, but if you go to a Boston-area big-name without ROTC like Harvard or Tufts, their students can do ROTC with MIT's program.</p>

<p>(And, I have no idea about the others, but even though the MIT student body is decidedly left-leaning I never picked up on any stigma associated with ROTC.)</p>

<p>It's not in the northeast, but Washington & Lee University has a longstanding ROTC program. Also, with regard to Cornell, I believe that it's retention of ROTC involved in no small part then-Governor Mario Cuomo's insistence that NY state's colleges accomodate the military, despite 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.' Everyone knows that Cornell University does maintain a unit of SUNY among its colleges. Just as importantly, the New York State government's 'aid to private colleges' program is a big carrot, or stick, if you know what I mean.</p>

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<p>Aren't they located next door to VMI?</p>

<p>lake wash- I think Cornell's involvement in ROTC is based more on its land grant status than SUNY (Morrell Act of 1863 or something like that). Military education as well as agriculture (CALS at Cornell) are apart of the mission of a land grant school. It's complicated. It's more than a coincidence that Cornell was founded (1865?) around the same time as the Morrell Act.
MIT is also a land grant school in Mass, so that probably explains why it is an active part of campus life at both Cornell and MIT. and yes surrounding school like Bing, Cortland, Ithaca College and a few others send their ROTC students to the Cornell facility.</p>

<p>I would advise anyone considering ROTC to think twice about joining a program that is based in a sch. that is an appreciable distance fr. the school in which they are enrolled.
ROTC is more demanding than many think. There is much more to it than wearing a uniform to class once a week. </p>

<p>S's ROTC unit has Physical Training three times a week at 6 a.m. sharp. S lives less than ten minutes fr. campus. He gets up at 5:30 and runs to make it. Add to that the ROTC classes and labs that have to be worked into the rest of the academic schedule and it could be really become unmanageable to have to travel very far to get to the host sch..<br>
With all his ROTC classes/labs added in S has taken between eighteen and twenty credit hrs. every semester except the current one (his last) in order to graduate in four years. Having to travel back and forth between schools would make that schedule very tough unless they were really close together.</p>

<p>DougBetsy, yes W&L and VMI are next door neighbors.</p>