Yale Class of 2017 SCEA Discussion thread

<p>Aha I have all the same info.</p>

<p>My application status website still reads “teacher recommendation” for both. Hopefully we’re reading too much into this and it doesn’t have any significance!</p>

<p>Same as everyone else. Maybe my teacher recommendations didn’t change names because I submitted my teacher recs by mail?</p>

<p>Do you guys think the adcoms look at the essays and reccs first or the test scores and grades first?</p>

<p>MangoFloat, my teachers also sent their recommendations via snail mail. Your explanation could therefore have credence.</p>

<p>Yea, probably the reason, given how my and cc’s recs have worked out.</p>

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<p>Numbers first, then essay. Unless there’s been a revolution in application reading over the past ten years.</p>

<p>As you might notice when you ppreview your app, your writings are last.</p>

<p>Do they actually calculate the Academic Index? I know Dartmouth did a few years back, don’t know about other schools.</p>

<p>I don’t think they actively calculate AI except for athletic recruits. Their computer system might do it for them though.</p>

<p>Grades and scores are read before essays and other materials. I agree with Philovitist. After all, why waste time reading essays if an applicant is woefully lacking academically?</p>

<p>I think they read the essays either way. “Holistic”, y’know?</p>

<p>my adcom said they read teacher recs first, and then they “glance” over the numbers.</p>

<p>Wow, teacher recs first? That’s weird.</p>

<p>CC20132017, same here haha. My supplemental recommendation is extremely strong, but it is supplemental.</p>

<p>what i know from my research —
everything goes through a process similar to this, though it’s different from college to college.</p>

<p>First, there are first readers. They extract all the basic facts from the application — stats, obviously, as well as the central idea of the essay (ex. “music=life”); they also give ratings to the softer parts of the app: recommendation quality, essay quality, ECs, course rigor, et al. </p>

<p>And they probably have multiple (2 or more) first readers before a real adcom even looks at your application. These things just make your app easier for the real arbitrators to look through your app.</p>

<p>And multiple adcoms look at your app, too, checking the accuracy of first readers assessments, looking for signs of uniqueness that don’t show in the stats (and noting them), etc. People at this point are auto-rejected based on the sum of all their scores — not just stats, but assessments of essay quality and rec quality as well. Holistic, but still ordered. The weightings of the various factors are determined by how much each part of the application contributes to the sum (ex. x/5 for test scores, x/7 for GPA). </p>

<p>The auto-reject sum is much higher for hooks than it is for normal applicants however. Asians don’t have a lower autoreject sum than whites; they just tend to get lower ratings when it comes to PQs. As some accounts go, readers just find them boring for some reason. :/</p>

<p>URMs and other hooks often get re-read an extra time by a diversity adcom, who keeps an eye out for “special qualities” that other adcoms might “miss” or look over. Other colleges might do their affirmative action in some other way.</p>

<p>There might also be an auto-admit sum; a number so high that it’s clear that a student should be admitted. The people in between the auto-admit and auto-reject sums are those who go through committee. However, everyone going to Yale goes through committee, so their auto-admit sum probably just equates to having an easier time in committee, not necessarily an actual auto-admit. Legacy status only really gets brought up in committee, as something that pushes someone over the edge into admission.</p>

<p>The powers that be — coaches, professors, deans, chairmen, etc. — intervene by phone call or email in order to add a bit of hook for non-“class sculpting” reasons. Development cases, athletic recruits, etc.</p>

<p>I’m sure that Yale (and perhaps no college anymore) does NOT do it exactly like this, but I’d bet my admission that they do something similar.</p>

<p>teacher’s names have been added…ugh what does this meannnn?</p>

<p>my application status is also a checkmark…does this mean that they’re done reviewing my app? probably not since it’s been there for at least a week…starting to read WAY too much into things haha</p>

<p>Nah, it’s been like that forever. Means they declared it complete, I’ll bet.</p>

<p>also ugh there were a couple of grammar mistakes on my activities…but i sent in an update because i had to anyways pretty early so hopefully they just looked at the new version…essays were fine though, at least i think…oh dear i’m actually starting to get nervous…for no reason.</p>

<p>canadian2013, that check mark is there as long as your application materials have all been submitted. Don’t worry about that part too much, haha. And one grammatical error here or there doesn’t equal auto-rejection. :)</p>

<p>Philovitist and others, sometimes I just wish schools like Yale were more transparent in their admissions process.</p>

<p>@CC20132017 - Debra Johns, from north jersey haha.</p>

<p>As I told you guys earlier, there were loads of random exclamation points in all my uploaded documents to Yale that really stand out. I detected them before submitting, of course, and made a joke about “While I truly am very excited about your college, those aren’t supposed to be there”.</p>

<p>I’m hoping they’ll help me stand out in a basic way. I’ll be that exclamation point guy.</p>

<p>(if they don’t appear in my other apps, I’m deliberately adding them, so I don’t have to rewrite that blurb) >.></p>

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<p>How do you guys know your regional adcoms?</p>