<p>My son was accepted at Yale. He is 95% sure he is going there. After looking at his FA award, I am 100% sure he is going! :). I saw a post from someone saying that if you are sure you are going, you should withdraw your other apps. I talked to him about it last night. As a mother, I would want some other child to have the excitement of receiving an acceptance letter versus a deferral. I wouldn’t want him to possibly take the ‘spot’ of someone else who was equally qualified at some of the LACs and elite Us to which he has applied. Not trying to be arrogant about an acceptance, just wondering. Does anybody have any thoughts on this?</p>
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They should at least withdraw apps to any college that they definitely would not attend over Yale. For my kids, this was all their other apps. In their school, it was considered bad form to leave apps open to just see how they’d turn out–although some kids did do this.</p>
<p>I do not know how anyone who posts on this forum can argue objectively that New Haven is not dangerous. The campus has cameras, locked gates and security everywhere!! The drug company was given millions in subsisdies to move from Cheshire to New Haven, but that does not alter the fact that New Haven is dangerous. Yale is more dangerous than almost any school in its peer group. Princeton, Palo Alto, Cambridge are MUCH safer than New Haven, much more stable neighborhoods, far more affluent and less of a feeling of “us versus them”. If you are a young faculty member, you can send your child to public schools in the other communities, but not in New Haven!! While Yale has certainly done its best in recent years to stem New Haven’s massive urban problems, it is still a BIG NEGATIVE for Yale to be situated in New Haven. Yale is a fine institution, but it is far from perfect…So if you son or daughter was deferred or rejected, I suggest you all spend time identifying another (maybe even better) university–there are many available in the US.</p>
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<p>5.) Memphis, Tennessee: 1,539 violent crimes and 480 robberies per 100,000 people
4.) New Haven, Connecticut: 1,584 violent crimes and 628 robberies per 100,000 (almost triple national average)
3.) St. Louis, Missouri: 1,747 violent crimes per 100,000 people and 41 murders (almost five times national average)
2.) Detriot, Michigan: 1,887 violent crimes per 100,000 people and 34 murders (four times national average)
1.) Flint, Michigan: 2,208 violent crimes, 49 murders, and 84 forcible rapes per 100,000 people
Note: Violent crime includes murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.</p>
<p>Regarding the legacy admissions information, I do not doubt that Yale legacy admissions rate is not above 30%, but it is far above the overall admissions rate, and, more importantly, it does not consider all the other “development” or “prestige” applicants which Yale accpets. Is it a mere coincidnece that both of Arianna Huffinton’s children, Caroline Kennedy’s Children, Brian Williams’ daughter, among many other celebrities-- all attend or attended Yale. I grew up in lower Fairfield County Connecticut – America’s most affluent metro area. I can assure you that MANY applicants accepted to Yale from this area are just rich and connected --and had no special achievements that deserved taking up a coveted admission slot to Yale.</p>
<p>Yale’s legacy admit rate is about 21% for the class of 2014. Nor does Yale (or any other school) publish their Development admits – of whom I concur 100% with Yale’s choices. I’ll take a rich dolt whose daddy can fund 50 other kids’ education any day. The overall Fin Aid recipient rate is about 65% of kids. </p>
<p>And no one said New Haven didn’t have its dangers. I do feel for the ravaged neighborhoods within New Haven proper. But shouldn’t your stats report center more on crimes on campus? </p>
<p>Even so, I wouldn’t hesitate one second to send either of my daughters to attend if accepted. I’ve taught both of them (hopefully) enought common sense to navigate a circumstance such as living in New Haven. Sorry but I share none of your “I must have Palo Alto style living/security” in order to partake of the world. </p>
<p>(Caveat: I live within 35 minutes of 1 & 2 on your list and grew up in one of them – I’m guess I’m jaded?)</p>
<p>BTW: look at the crime statistics for East Palo Alto – just a footbridge away from Palo Alto.</p>
<p>But I’m just speaking to the wind. Your negative impressions of Yale are pretty firm. Dunno why you’re preaching on this thread.</p>
<p>For years, I have had the opinion that the posters on the CC Yale Boards are so myopic about Yale, etc, that they cannot see past some of Yale’s problems. Some of the responses to my posts only prove my point. Yale is a great school, but there are at least 30 other US universiites that are as good (if not better) than Yale in many respects. </p>
<p>I was only trying to convey that rejected and deferred Yale applicants and their parents spend so much energy on the whys and why nots of admission – acting as if Yale is the only school worth attending and no other instituion is worthy. From my standpoint, it is better if students, parents and gudiance counselors slected a group of schools that would be equally acceptable for the student to attend…so that if things do not go as planned during the early admission round there are other palatable choices for students.</p>
<p>Your response to Palo Alto’s crime is pathetic. East Palo Alto is nowhere near the Stanford campus, so trying to tie Stanford to East Palo is disingenuous. Whereas the Yale campus basically borders slums and destitution to its north, northeast and west and the Yale Medical school is basically surrounded by drug infested neighborhoods to its west and north – no one can dispute that Stanford is a very safe campus with relatively safe environment. Perhaps one reason for this is that Stanford actually helped to shape the economy of its surrounding geography because of its superb computer science, engineering, business and medical programs – and the many companies that Stanford alums have founded/invested in over the years. Stanford helped build the modern American high tech economy and has had a very postive impact on its surrounding region. I cannot say the same for Yale–which spent much of the 20th century turning its back on New Haven and was not focused on developing technology and companies til much more recently. I dare say that Yale is trying to copy Stanford in its attempts to foster some drug and medical device technology and companies – and I think this is great for Southern CT. The truth is that Yale only realized that it had to deal with New Haven after New Haven had already declined significantly, and the competition for faculty, students and resources with other top institutions became increasingly competitive. Indeed, New Haven became a big negative…</p>
<p>Your comment defending Yale’s admission of wealthy development candidates is quite distasteful to my way of thinking. Yale takes way more than 50 highly connected and powerful students – and many are defended on the grounds that their statistics are better than average, etc. This is all BS from the admissions office. Growing up in Fairfield County, many Yale admits had their families’ names on the campus buildings… and I am sure this occurs in many parts of the country, not just in CT. With an endowment of $17 billion, Yale still feels the need to suck money from its alumni, so it can go out and hire all the science faculty that it cannot develop on its own.</p>
<p>I agree 100% with your 1st 2 paragraphs. Society at large, and frequenters of this site are far too Yale-centric. No argument here.</p>
<p>I also agree with you about my thin reference to E Palo Alto. Oh well – I tried ;)</p>
<p>And I can’t say anything about the # of development admits/year although 50 seems ridiculously high. But I also agree with you that Yale would keep this number hidden whether it was 15 (more agreeable to me) or 50(less agreeable).</p>
<p>ugh kalorama there is really no need to spend so much time bashing yale on this thread.</p>
<p>@Neamah – I received my admission packet today. No handwritten notes anywhere</p>
<p>The area around Yale is quite dangerous, if you’re an unlocked bicycle.</p>
<p>If you’re a human being, not so much.</p>
<p>Just bringing some balance to the discussion of Yale on cc…I have not made any false statements, as far as I know…</p>
<p>If you were a father and you had daughters, would you let them walk alone or a female friend from Science Hill to Phelps Gate at night??</p>
<p>Kalorama, warn us if you decide to start bashing Yale, so we can run for cover.</p>
<p>You raise some semi-valid points, but they’re pretty much all exaggerated. New Haven is not exactly a garden spot, and it has an urban crime problem, but as you’d know if you’d read the many, many previous threads on this topic, it doesn’t have that much of an impact on Yale students. They have to use some reasonable care.</p>
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How late? I’d probably suggest that they take the shuttle if it was late. By the way, I am a father with a daughter and a son at Yale, so I know what I’m talking about. What’s your source of knowledge–living in Fairfield County, or is there more?</p>
<p>Pretty sure Kalorama sits on the admissions committee-- that’s how he/she knows so much about the qualifications of accepted students.</p>
<p>So what do you do when you know a student who was admitted SCEA to Yale but who also applied (and was admitted) EA to another school?</p>
<p>Which other school?</p>
<p>if it is any public school they’re fine</p>
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<p>If it wasn’t a public school with rolling admissions</p>
<p>say goodbye to your acceptances and hello to your school being blacklisted</p>
<p>that is if you or someone else from your school pulled such a silly stunt :p</p>
<p>@Kalor:
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If you were a father and you had daughters, would you let them walk alone or a female friend from Science Hill to Phelps Gate at night?? </p>
<p>This must be the “has he ingested the full Yale Kool aid” litmus test question right? </p>
<p>OK, I’ll bite: When my daughters are of college age, I don’t think there will be much I can let or not let them do. What I have done and will continue to do is teach them to be wise and aware of their surroundings. </p>
<p>Kalor: since my daughters’ well-being is such a concern to you, do you have a better suggestion (besides “not attending Yale”) ?</p>
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