<p>T26E4 – I appreciate your response to my earlier post, and while you have first hand knowledge of what your alma mater does, I just wonder if the messaging that EA is for ‘rich, white kids’ is still a prevalent theme across the nation or even globally? Perhaps it is…I truly don’t know, and would appreciate learning any data to support or refute this. It seems like that would have been the case 20 years ago, or perhaps even 10 years ago, but I’m not sure the data would support that today across the board. Simply perusing the listing of results threads suggests that there are many non-rich and many non-white capable applicants. As a matter of fact, I would hazard a guess that being white (I don’t know about being rich) may even be a slight or unspoken, subtle disadvantage in this day and age, as great universities like Yale are trying to create a diverse student body. Any potential applicant who has access to a computer, either at home or via a town library, can visit the Yale site and learn all about the application process, including both early and regular admission cycles. Those who do not take the initiative to ask, look and learn…well, perhaps they are not truly viable Ivy-league candidates in the first place.</p>
<p>You are absolutely correct that there are many, many viable applicants that come through the regular admissions cycle. I am not suggesting that Yale fill all its open slots through the EA process. I am suggesting that they could probably accept a higher percentage, as other prestigious institutions could as well. Current EA Admissions Policies have effectively denied my son, and all others who have been deferred, the opportunity to apply to other Ivy League Institutions through the EA process. He followed the rules, and now experiences the consequences. That is ok, because he truly wants to attend Yale. But just because it is ‘ok’, is it really ‘fair’?</p>
<p>Don’t worry about it Philo, stupider things have happened.</p>
<p>Today I was deferred from MIT. I go to a boarding school which routinely sends 1-2 kids to MIT per year. My GC told me I was a very strong candidate and he would extremely surprised if I didn’t get in. Naturally, I had gotten my hopes my up, since everyone was telling me I was a shoo-in. Especially after gaining acceptance to Caltech, I assumed MIT would work out as well. I was wrong. I got deferred - which really confuses me as I could not have been a stronger math/science type applicant I don’t think.</p>
<p>I made USAMO twice, AIME five times (12/15 my best), missed a percect AMC by one question, and nearly won the USAMO competition Junior year. Honestly, at this point my mind is blown. Especially now after seeing your situation at Yale too (although you still need a great achievement, and not just race/scores to get in).</p>
<p>My DD got Deferred too, but honestly, our only emotion as parents was overwhelming gratitude to have our kids safe at our side. </p>
<p>When something horrible like Connecticut happens, you realize the only thing that truly matters is the safety and well being of your kids. Trust me, every parent in America is grieving for those sweet little kids and their families.</p>
<p>So all of you accepted, rejected, or deferred drop what you are doing and go give your family a big hug. Tell them how much you love and appreciate them. Every single one of you will do great in college, whether or not at Yale, but always remember what truly matters in life are those you love and who love you.</p>
<p>Thanks austinpop for your astute post. My son was rejected despite a 2400 and great everything else so go figure. Despite being very disappointed, CT puts it all in perspective. He will thrive no matter where he goes, as will all of you. And take at least a day off to appreciate you families and good fortune before focusing on whats next.</p>
<p>After mulling over it some more, the frustrating part for me isn’t that I didn’t get accepted, but rather that I have to wait for three and a half more months. I go to a rural school where academic and college expectations are less-than-fantastic, so most of the people that so apply and go to four-year schools all apply to places with automatic and rolling admissions. Just about everyone will know well in advance of the beginning of April. Really, though, I suppose the wait is normal elsewhere, so that’s comforting.</p>
<p>I think it is pointless to dwell on your children being denied admission to one competitive university. All of us know the odds are very low and that the admission criteria are subjective. So i am amazed how every year parents and students waste so much energy analyzing why the university deferred, rejected and/or wait listed thousands of applicants. Yale is a well known university, but there are at least 30 universities that match Yale in terms of quality of faculty, resources, and student body. Let’s not get so brainwashed by the Yale mystique. Move on and focus on targeting other schools, because Yale is far from perfect. New Haven is a dangerous city;the sciences programs at Yale are nothing special; Yale still admits children of many famous and powerful people and underserving legacies; and frankly, Yale grads don’t outperform those of the top 30 colleges.</p>
<p>New Haven: dangerous city. Hmmmm… not to students much unless you want to start a competing drug business.
Sciences: spent over $1B to boost them. Not shabby
undeserving legacies: about 80% legacy admits are rejected. Their stats are better on avg than other admitted students.</p>
<p>Kalorama - interesting post, however my DD was one of those deferred. The wonderful thing about this forum is the opportunity to vent and share with others. Yale is a reach for everyone, however in looking at last three years SCEA results my DD was competitive. </p>
<p>She has applied to several other schools and see what happens. The goal is to see where she lands and make decisions in April.</p>
<p>Congrats again to the wonderful students accepted. To those who were not, good luck it will work out!</p>
<p>Sorry about that laxmom. Wishing her best of luck in the RD round.</p>
<p>Can I ask a dumb question about CC I’ve been wondering for a while? What does DD mean? I know it refers to your daughter, but then why wouldn’t you use “D” for Daughter? What does the second “D” stand for?</p>
<p>No, parents do not receive written notes of welcome in their student’s packet from Admissions. I believe a welcome note will come later from the dean of your student’s college.</p>