<p>How do you get an AUTOMATIC rejection from Yale (irrespective of great stats, etc.):</p>
<p>Do one or both of:</p>
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<li><p>Have College Board send Yale your AP scores. Michelle Hernandez (who charges $14,000 for four days of college advice) argues strenuously that you need the College Board to send your actual AP scores to colleges and that this will help support your application (even though you self-report these on your Common App). Yale specifically says that it doesn't want you to send them your AP scores. Unless you read deep enough into the Yale website, you won't discover this. So, following the Hernandez advice will kill your application because it makes it seem as if you didn't actually read their instructions (sort of like not following their mandate to limit your Common App essay to 500 words). Self destruct at Yale = sending AP scores.</p></li>
<li><p>Yale wants you to send them all sittings of the SAT and ACT that you have taken. If you have sat for either more than twice and send them the score, it makes you seem like an obsessive,nerdish test taker. Yale wants to weed these people out. So, whatever advantages you think that the SAT's "score choice" gives you, if you send them three or more SAT scores you have self-destructed. If you try and send just one SAT score to Yale from the College Board, it become difficult as the SAT mechanism for sending scores forces you to send ALL of them. Your best alternative is to take the ACT, where its mechanism does not force you to send all your ACT scores. You can chose your ONE or TWO best ACTs and send them in. I can't see how Yale will ever find out you took five or ten ACTs or whatever. Again, if you take multiple SATs or ACTS and send the all in = self-destruct. Don't do it!</p></li>
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<p>^^^^This is super wrong. I sent my son’s AP scores in to Yale and a bunch of other schools (unnecessarily, as I later realized). He was accepted SCEA. I’m not saying you should do it, but if it happens it won’t kill an application in and of itself. </p>
<p>Also, you have to send ALL scores of ACT, SAT and SAT 2 tests taken in high school (not any taken in middle school though). If you don’t and you’re accepted you get to live with the terror that if they discover otherwise (and I’m pretty sure they have ways of checking these things, otherwise why would they insist on it?), your acceptance will be rescinded.</p>
<p>With half a billion applications to sort through each year, I sincerely doubt that Yale is going to comb over the applications of those it has already admitted and try and tease out whether additional score reports should have been sent. If Yale ever found out from ACT that an admitted student should have sent tests that were withheld, you can bet there would be privacy lawyers coming out of the woodwork, attacking both ACT and Yale. No way ACT releases scores without student approval, period. ACT does not do score choice, period. They leave sending scores wholly up to the integrity of the student whether to abide by/succumb to the table pounding of the Yales and Stanfords. My view is to live with the risk – colleges have made it abundantly clear that they absolutely despise multiple test takers. I say, get admitted on the basis of a couple of ACTs and then don’t worry. Yale will never, ever find out (unless you tell them, and you wouldn’t).</p>
<p>What about freshman year? I took the SAT the first time in December of my 9th grade year, then again in 10th grade, and I’ll take it for the last time next month. But do they seriously need to see the 9th grade one…?</p>
<p>They want EVERYTHING you took during your High School years, so this includes Freshman year. Just wait – when you sign on to college board to send your scores to Yale, those Freshman scores will show up and college board will absolutely send them.</p>
<p>Colleges dont need official AP scores until they admit you and trying to give you credit for classes. So just sending an official copy is never grounds for rejection.</p>
<p>The reason they want you to send all your scores is to see if you are anal and are trying to get that perfect score by making repeated attempts while you have reasonable score of 2300+ already. If you went from 1700 in 9th to 2100 in 10th to 2250 in 11th, they will have no problems with that since people’s knowledge improves when they take additional classes in Math and English. The adcom was giving an example of some kid who kept trying repeatedly for perfect scores while he had 780, 770, 790 etc and the numbers kept going down. So he was suggesting that if your numbers did nt change after a couple of times, dont retake it.</p>
<p>What test results should I report to Yale?
You must report the scores of all of the SATs and SAT Subject Tests or all of the ACTs and ACT Writing Tests that you’ve taken. If you choose to fulfill the requirement with SAT scores, then it’s not necessary to send any scores from the ACT, even if you’ve taken the ACT. If you choose to fulfill the requirement using the ACT, then you don’t need to send us any SAT scores unless you wish to do so. Whichever type of test you choose, you must report all your scores from every time you’ve taken that type of test. And if you choose to use a combination of SAT and ACT test results, you must report all scores from both agencies.</p>
<p>The instructions are very clear and precise. You may be skeptical about how they are going to find out but be aware that most colleges are doing random background checks on their admits since they got burnt by the guy who kept jumping from Ivy to Ivy by totally falsifying his entire background. So you withold information in order not be rejected but only to have the chance to be expelled later.</p>
<p>to clarify my previous post, IF you send in your ACT scores you need to send ALL of the times you took it (during high school). IF you send in your SAT scores (SAT 2’s included) you need to send in ALL those scores.</p>
<p>Thanks! This applies to me perfectly: 1720 in 9th grade, then a 2180 in 10th grade, now I’m a rising senior aiming for a 2250+, with a 2300 being optimum. :)</p>
<p>I think you missed Kelly’s point. Yale can do all the “background checks” it wants on stuff it can get its hands on (verify transcripts and ECs, etc. etc.), but it will absolutely NOT be able to penetrate the ACT wall. Posit this: Yale calls up ACT and says, give me all the tests for Ms. Jones. ACT says, sorry bud, test results are the property of the student. Go pound sand. Rebuffed, Yale calls up Ms. Jones and says, give us all you ACT scores, all of them!!!. Ms. Jones says, “I have,” as she sits there with a plethora of unrealeased ACTs in her back pocket. What’s Yale gonna do?</p>
<p>decrescendo - You fit the profile of improvement from grade to grade which is supposed to be going in the upward direction. </p>
<p>placido240 - The colleges clearly state the rules. How do you know ACT will refuse to provide the scores on a background check to a college for an admitted student? Don’t you think if they did that to Yale, Yale can arbitrarily refuse to accept that test going forward?</p>