<p>yo this **** definetely aint bad. I am applying to yale but i probably wont get in. I am from the much hated cambridge Ma, and i did live in the harvard dorms for two year but, i can spit. If i get in id like to spit wit yall some time. peace</p>
<p>ec-whatever:</p>
<p>(a) oh sure, you certainly have the potential to be viable hip-hoppers. But your insistence on generating publicity by calling the Princeton people "autistic" and "battling" them seems petty and ridiculous. Who really cares honestly what overachieving and elitist Yale students think of equally overachieving and elitist Princeton students? Nor is it particularly good hip-hop. </p>
<p>(b) The vast majority of those who attend P and Y are. I suppose one has to be poor to have hip-hop credibility?</p>
<p>First of all, my screenname is ectheoreticallymyhome, but I guess that's too long for you to type. I'm sorry, I guess I should dumb it down for you.</p>
<p>As to (a), get your facts straight. Princeton called us out lyrically, and we responded in kind. Actually, a lot of people cared what we thought of them. Enough to get us front page news in Princeton and a bunch of Yale people - my buddies and not - to come up to me and ask me how that was going.
Petty? Maybe. Ridiculous? Only by your metric which, in itself, seems rather petty.</p>
<p>(b) No, but if used in a pejorative sense, of course I'm going to deny it. I'm not poor, but I'm not well-off - I'm just who I am. You say "rich Yale students" like it's something bad, and it affects the quality of my music. Well, guess what? It doesn't. We're nice, and you're just a sad high school kid who jock-rides The Game because he's the newest thing outta Cali... or are you? Go ahead, homey, prove me wrong, prove that you know your hip-hop. You rep socal? Do you know about Tha Alkoholiks? DJ Quik? Xzibit and Strong Arm Steady, Phil Da Agony, Krondon? Do you know about E-40 and the Bay Area scene? How about Ras Kass and Saafir, the Golden State Warriors? How about Hieroglyphics crew, DJ Muggs and the Soul Assassins? Step to me only if you've got your mind correct, son - which, if you're touting The Game as the epitome of hip-hop, I am pretty sure you don't.</p>
<p>(c) "overachieving and elitist Yale students" - why are we overachieving and elitist? Simply because we're at Yale? Does that mean that what we have to say isn't worth hearing? Hmm, I'd check your mindset, son, if I were you, because isn't that the reason that you're on this selfsame message board? To whine about getting in (or not, or trying to get in) to an Ivy League university? And if you're lucky, or fortunate, and get in? Then are you also an overachieving, elitist Yalie whose voice doesn't deserve to be heard? Your logic invalidates itself, and is incoherent.
And so what if we're overachieving? Sounds like someone's a "hater"... a case of sour grapes. One man's "overachievement" is another man's hustle.
And if we are, does that also automatically make us elitist? Listen, kid, you don't know me. You don't know what homeys I have, you don't know the places my friends come from, you don't know what they've had to get through in their lives. I would tell you who I'm boys with, but you don't care. I would tell you about my boys who're working in the Yale cafeteria to get enough money together to go to art school, but you don't care. I'd tell you about my man who works at the photo store to keep himself from having to move back to the projects, but you don't care. Whatever, dun.
Your attitude - that hip-hoppas can't also be well-educated - is exactly the reason that keeps hip-hop and urban areas down. Assuming that Yalies can't be down with true hip-hop is akin to saying that education and the ghetto have nothing in common - way to further a stereotype, kid.</p>
<p>Fromans - no doubt, thanks for the props bro. If you ever roll through New Have, holla at me on IM or via email before you come, and we'll get in the booth, bro, if you've got some nice tracks. Holla at me on PM if you want and I'll try to hook you up with an LP or something - the tracks on the disc are way better'n the stuff we tossed online.</p>
<p>Zephyr, you don't know ****.</p>
<p>The Game is the worst new artist in hip hop. He thinks he's good, he say's he's good.</p>
<p>But he's not. He ragged on his old crew, trying to bring them down so he could bring himself up, and he almost got dead for it. </p>
<p>Hip hop culture, both spitting and bboying (breakdancing for you fools who didn't know) is BASED on the concept of the battle. Both originated in gangland culture. So yes, Eminem may have made an empire off of insulting people, but so did every other street rapper to start off.</p>
<p>But the reason he won his battles was because his "insults", as you call them, were brilliantly lyrical.</p>
<p>As for your assumption that intelligent, educated people can't rap:</p>
<p>Kanye West. Brilliant, suburban, and one of the best hip-hop artists out right now. The reason he is so good is because he has that educated intelligence that helps his rhymes.</p>
<p>Don't spit what you don't know Zephyr. Someone might spit right back.</p>
<p>Holla, SpinDr., you sound like a real cat. You a b-boy?</p>
<p>Also, have you heard that new Sheek Louch? It's aiight, I like a lot of it, especially the Kiss Your A$$ Goodbye remix.</p>
<p>I don't mean to beat a dead horse; just allow me a brief sec to put in my two cents. </p>
<p>1) I really do find it hilarious that this guy is saying Eminem is a subpar hip-hop artist or MC who only got famous for insulting a bunch of people.</p>
<p>Anybody who knows ANYTHING about hip-hop knows that battle rapping has been an absolutely fundamental part of hip-hop culture since the earliest of the early days. </p>
<p>2) Further anybody who knows ANYTHING about hip-hop would think twice-- no make it five times-- before ever even drawing a comparison between The Game and Eminem. And calling Game better? Oh my gosh, I want to cry. </p>
<p>No disrespect to The Game-- some of his songs are nice, and the production on The Documentary is definitely noteworthy-- but his music is absolutely manufactured to appeal to commercial audiences, with little regard for lyrical craftsmanship. You may prefer The Game's songs to Eminem's, but there is no way you can compare the two as lyricists or MC's. Eminem wins, hands down.</p>
<p>3) Generally speaking....Using stereotypes to further your argument really has the opposite effect, making you seem sort of uninformed and close-minded.</p>
<p>By the way, ectheoreticallymyhome, I went to a Yale multicultural event (I'm a high school senior) in mid-October and I saw you and your crew perform. Nice work.</p>
<p>Yeah, ChipsAnyone, that's what's up! There're some pics from that admissions show up on our website (in my profile). Thanks for the props, and if you get in (good luck!) and come during Bulldog Days, you'll see us perform again.</p>
<p>"bboying (breakdancing for you fools who didn't know)"</p>
<p>I'm officially a fool....</p>
<p>Hmm...this got a little bit heated....</p>
<p>Very well.....battle on...</p>
<p>Yea ectmh, bboy and dj, but I hit more mainstream stuff when I spin, so no, I haven't heard Sheek Louch. I'll check him out, though.</p>
<p>Word, I was just assuming that you were down with the D-D-D-D-Block, given your location. Right now, I'd say that the best stuff to come out has been Ras Kass's new mixtape, Institutionalized, and I've also been bumping that new Wu-Tang joint released by Dreddy Kruger's Think Differently music. It's so hard though, as a DJ, because you want to play good music, but you also have to play stuff that people like... which often is NOT the same.</p>
<p>Mainly I've been listening to 108 Tongues' new Harvard diss track, just in time for Yale-Harvard 2005 ;)</p>
<p>haha ectheoreticallymyhome, the 2004 **** Harvard diss track kicked ass, and was what initially got me hooked onto 108 Tongues.</p>