<p>Hey, guys - Just a note, my Yale rap crew just released our first CD. A sampling of our older songs is available on our website (in my profile), and the CD is available on the website or by emailing me. I just thought I'd put it out there if any of you are interested... good luck with admissions.</p>
<p>you dis other MC's by calling them "autistic"?</p>
<p>edit: double post.</p>
<p>That seems like a pretty pathetic and petty feud.</p>
<p>A bunch of rich Yalies and Princetonites insulting each other? Compelling, really!</p>
<p>Haha. It's not petty, it's artistic.</p>
<p>Feuds in hip-hop have had a long history - if you want me to elaborate further, I can do so.</p>
<p>I think it's interesting how you assume that, simply because we go to Yale, we're "A bunch of rich Yalies" - could you please elaborate on the systemic bias behind your statement that causes you to think that the guys in my crew are financially well-off?</p>
<p>Sour grapes, I guess. Zephyr was an SCEA applicant to Yale.</p>
<p>Irrevelant.</p>
<p>I didn't even apply to Princeton. </p>
<p>But this Princeton versus Yale hip-hop battle seems ridiculously petty, much like the East Coast/West Coast fued that resulted in the deaths of Tupac and Notorious B.I.G. This one, like previous feuds, is inane and created merely to generate album sales and publicity--look at Eminem's furor when he bashed Moby, or 50's dissing of Ja Rule. </p>
<p>It's ridiculous, Byerly and ec-whatever, and I would also condemn any Palo-Alto-based hip-hop feuds as equally "petty."</p>
<p>Frankly, there are better things you could be doing than insulting random Princeton kids as "autistic." Which in of itself is a whole other issue.</p>
<p>uhh, feuds are a huge aspect of the hip-hop culture. Hip hop started out when MCs battled each other at parties and clubs. It seems like a friendly rivalry anyway.</p>
<p>Feuds are a unncessarily "huge aspect of hip-hop culture." Most of the ones "feuding" are merely covering up their own inability to produce good rhymes and beats. And they want to drive record sales, most importantly. Eminem built a music empire out of insulting people.</p>
<p>Eminem built a music empire out of his near-limitless talent.</p>
<p>roflmao!!!!!</p>
<p>I might've exaggerated a bit with "near-limitless". But the substance of my statement still stands. Eminem is one of the finest lyricists in music. Period.</p>
<p>I'll repeat myself: Eminem built a music empire out of a near-limitless talent for insulting people.</p>
<p>You only have to listen to people like Talib Kweli, Jurassic 5, The Game, Busta Rhymes or Nas to realize Eminem is only talented in that he appeals to disaffected suburban white youth.</p>
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<p>as do all rappers...70% of hip hop is consumed by suburban white youth. Anyway, Eminem is a master of asonance rhyme and employs it a lot in his rap:
"Every time I write a rhyme, these people think it's a crime"
He actually does have a talent for sick rhymes, as do the rappers u mentioned.</p>
<p>You mentioned Nas. Out of all the rappers you mentioned, Nas is the only one who ranks with Eminem. Although, to be fair, Nas' Illmatic is better than anything Eminem's put out; but Eminem is more consistent with his albums.</p>
<p>A few choice lines from a great song that I'm listening to right now:</p>
<p>"Here we go again, we're out of our medicine,
out of our minds, and we want in yours, let us in."</p>
<p>"I don't even believe in breathin, I'm leavin air in your lungs
just to hear you keep screamin for me to seep it."</p>
<p>big and pac didnt die cuz of the feud.</p>
<p>pac was killed by knight cuz of all that death row drama going down. it wasnt east/west so much as a gang war</p>
<p>"Out of all the rappers you mentioned, Nas is the only one who ranks with Eminem."</p>
<p>You have got to be kidding me. The Game has far more talent than Eminem ever did, for one.</p>
<p>Wow. You guys are ridiculous.</p>
<p>First of all, The Game is nice... but nowhere near Eminem. Ask anyone who's into hip-hop culture, or who has heard Eminem's first LP, Infinite, his multiple guest spots (Biggie's "Dead Wrong," Sway and Tech's "Wake Up Show Anthem," or Shabaam Sahdeeq's "5 Star Generals") - he's fallen off, yes. But how in the world are you going to compare Game, who mainly raps about gangbanging (that he didn't really do - he's a piru blood by relation, but he barely rode or trapped... not to even get into the dubious ethical value of conflating banging with emceeing or hip-hop) to Eminem, a rapper who put in years of work in the Detroit underground ("at Kinko's/ copying covers of your cassette singles") and is VERY widely respected as a battle rapper (undefeated in major competition except by Juice at the 1997 Rap Olympics)?</p>
<p>Now, I believe, as Jin Tha MC says in his song "Top 5 (Dead or Alive)", that there IS no way to really rank emcees. I would put Busta up there with Em (heck, I just bought that first Leaders of the New School joint after having it sitting around on my computer for a year or so... if any of you even KNOW what that is, I'd be impressed), and Nas, too, along with J5, Rakim.... Heck, I'm pretty sure that I LIKE more rappers than many of you even KNOW.</p>
<p>But that's irrelevant. The point is? Those Pton clowns hit us up, and we responded on wax. Isn't that hip-hop? If it's not, then apparently KRS-ONE, Kool Moe Dee, Rakim, LL Cool J, Canibus, and MC Shan aren't hip-hoppers.</p>
<p>I would still like an answer as to why you assumed that, simply because my crew attends Yale College, we're (a) not viable hip-hoppers and/or (b) we're financially well-off.</p>
<p>YESSS! The Game is way overrated. </p>
<p>"(a) not viable hip-hoppers and/or (b) we're financially well-off."</p>
<p>(a) Hip-Hop is generally viewed as the music of the "street". Namely, people who live in Urban areas and are a part of the rap underground. Basically, to make into mainstream hip-hop and be "legit", you've got to put in the years of working in the underground making mixtapes and such. Since you guys go to Yale, the assumption is that you didn't participate in the rap underground since the rap underground is for those who aren't so well-off. </p>
<p>(b) That was just a cheap shot that wasn't based on any fact.</p>