<p>Is anyone in Yale's music school? </p>
<p>How difficult, in comparison to Peabody, Oberlin, Northwestern, and USC is it to get into Yale's music school? </p>
<p>I really want to double major (assuming I can), and their full ride to all music students is very appealing. </p>
<p>Or even better, is anyone double majoring at Yale? Would it take me more than 4 years?</p>
<p>The music school is a graduate school, not an undergrad school. The full ride only applies to grad students is music. You can major in music as an undergrad, but getting in to Yale as an undergrad is the same difficulty (ie very difficult) no matter what major you plan to pursue.</p>
<p>If you are very good, you can do a joint BA/MM degree from the College and the conservatory.</p>
<p>The full scholarship applies only for the graduate programs.</p>
<p>In terms of acceptance difficulty, I would say that it is quite competetive. I know several very good string players who were offered full rides to Juilliard, but rejected or wait listed at Yale. In comparison to the schools you listed, it is much more competetive.</p>
<p>Yes, it's tough. It's the best music conservatory in the world.</p>
<p>I don't know what the "best conservatory in the world" is but in the U.S., Curtis is generally considered to be at the top of the heap. It is also free, by the way.</p>
<p>Hello veteranmom,</p>
<p>I also agree that Curtis is the most outstanding conservatory in the country, if not the world. However, it is also difficult to discern what school is 'the best'; especially when degree contexts are not specified, determining a single school that qualifies as 'best' becomes even more ambiguous. Curtis is certainly top notch in the undergraduate world, though it lacks any graduate programs. In terms of graduate studies, I believe that Yale now has a place at the top echelon of schools, whether they are within a conservatory or a university environment. Also, like Curtis, Yale's graduate programs in the music school are full scholarship.</p>
<p>It also depends on the instrument / area you are looking at.</p>
<p>When it went tuition-free last year, Yale instantly vaulted to the front ranks of graduate conservatories and I believe its applications shot up. But for grad studies, a huge consideration is the fit between student and studio teacher. I have a cellist D, for instance, who never considered Yale for grad school (this was before it went tuition-free) because she was not attracted to the Aldo Parisot philosophy of cello pedagogy, which is what Yale offers. She went to another grad school to study with another nationally-known teacher who was a better fit for her.</p>
<p>But this discussion really belongs on the "music school" forum, not here at the Yale forum.</p>
<p>Poster X...there's no such thing as the best conservatory in the world.</p>
<p>Okay thank you. I was unaware that it was only open to grad students.</p>
<p>I'm not surprised that Yale's applications shot up when they went tuition free last year. Our son will apply for grad school for next year.<br>
For him, it is an opportunity to study tuition free witht he same high caliber faculty that teaches in NYC.
He knows admission is a long shot but will take a chance.</p>
<p>I would say to also strongly consider Juilliard. He has an equal or even better chance at getting accepted there with a full scholarship. Plus he can stay in the city; perhaps with the teachers he likes. But I would rather go to Yale than Juilliard. Much better facilities and resources, and a better average level of playing.</p>
<p>Juilliard with full scholarship seems even a longer shot. Our son was rejected by Julliard as an undergrad, though admitted to several other competitive schools. His performance level is way more advanced now than when he was 17 but he probably doesn't see merit awards at Juilliard as a real possibility.</p>
<p>Yale is probably just as competitive but it's a new challenge, I guess.</p>
<p>Yale's school of music is open to undergraduates as well. They have a joint BA/MM. However, you need to be one of the top musicians in the world. And you need to be able to get into Yale. </p>
<p>For non-conservatory students, Yale also has a fantastic undergraduate major in music, from which students often go on to other conservatories if they aren't quite at the Yale (music) caliber. Remember, this is Yale we are talking about - it is going to be a "reach" for anyone.</p>
<p>If he feels that he has a decent shot at Yale, then he should audition for Juilliard. I understand that he may feel insecure about being turned down before, however he should still try. It is not as much of a long shot as you might think to get a full ride. Juilliard has a lot of money, and from my observations and of the many people who I know that go there, Juilliard seems to give full scholarships out a lot. I can tell you that I know many people who were turned down from Yale and accepted to Juilliard (many with full scholarship), but I don't know anyone rejected form Juilliard and accepted to Yale.</p>
<p>Good Luck!!</p>