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Colleges and Universities A-Z Williams College
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<p>OK... im more focused on life than on tests so brace yourself for my scores... the rest of my application looks ok.....
African American girl
Financial need: yes...big time
GPA: 3.947 uw 4.66 w
Rank 2/ 710 hopefully 1 by second semester
school : public...bad side of town...and i must emphasize this...there have been three shootings at my school last year alone
AP test:
Bio 5
English lan 4
USH 5
(scores pending)
Senior schedule:
Calc ABC
Individual Study Debate (like debate 6)
AP English Literature
AP Chem 2 or Adv. Organic Chemistry... wish i could take both
AP Macro
Ap comparative Governemnt
Basketball
German 2 and 3 hopefully self study before January</p>

<p>SAT: 630 CR 630 M 600 W ( i left the test early around section 8..an excuse that most wont believe but i had a family emergency.... but you can ask anyone who took the test even the guidance counselr and theyll tell you that i did....</p>

<p>I dont think the SAT is for me though.. I think i want to take the ACT and i have scored well on two practivce tests 30-33 Composite because I like the syle of questions the ACT offers and science is my thing which really helps</p>

<p>SAT 2: Math 2 720 Liteature : 730 Biology (hoping for a 740+)</p>

<p>ECS:
president of speech and debate
varsity letter in debate
nationally ranked in Dramatic interpretation (top 50)
Quarterfinalist in impromptu two years in a row at national tournament top 60
lots of awards in speech and debate...taken a few local tournaments
(will continue debate in college...if that means anything)</p>

<p>My friend and i created YNH... a service group that has raised over $9,000.00 in the last 3 years for many causes</p>

<p>Academic Decatholon... medaled in Honors Writing , Speech , and Music ( gold , gold, bronze)</p>

<p>UIL state participantin Imformative speaking (kinda big here in texas</p>

<p>Semifinalist at the sate tournament in Oratory and Extemp speaking
TOC qualifier in extemp (kinda big in debate world)</p>

<p>Teach a kid - mentor program for middle scool students... head mentor ( 2 years.....
Ive ben in all my clubs listed for 4 years.... these ive been in for 2 years</p>

<p>SNHS sec , president-12
NHS
Student council</p>

<p>Lots of volunter hours .....walks...YMCA...library.... Medical center...(shadowed a few doctors)</p>

<p>National finalist in a speech contest...maybe i will win (hahahah) but its not till november</p>

<p>Recs: great
essays: will be really deep hopefully about my life experinces and when i visited my family back home in Nigeria
(u.s. born citizen just for clarification)</p>

<p>lots of academic awards...something for PSAT at least commended (219)
AP scholar with honors
speaks more than two languages </p>

<p>Quest Bridge College prep scholarship winner and Ventures Scholar....</p>

<p>What would be my chances if I got a 32 -34 on the ACT ...i plan on explaining the situation with SAT with a letter...i think my friend started a topic like this for me......</p>

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<p>hello boyhood! (ironic name :))</p>

<p>I'm an African-American male (entering freshman) at williams. With stats such as yours, admission is almost a sure chance. I know other african-american female applicants with scores around yours who were admitted this year, and your achievements look amazing!</p>

<p>My SATs were somewhat similar to yours ( 620 CR 570M 750W) w/ 680 Lit and 570 M. in my case, although my math scores were really low, I emphasized my writing talent through my essay and a scholarship I won for $100,000. Williams really likes disadvantaged students in particular, not to speak of minority status which is also very big around here. </p>

<p>Williams absolutely loves students with achievements like yours. I (might) even go as far as to call you a...shoe-in (shhhhh..).</p>

<p>if williams is your first-choice college, i'd apply ED. there's little pressure. and if you're unhappy with your finaid (looks like you'll need a lot) williams will release you from the ED agreement. Williams actually wants more low-income students (read: anything poorer than upper middle-class) but admissions does not consider your family's need when making decisions. however, if poverty has had any affect on your life, it very well may be considered. I know african american incoming freshman with lower stata than yours who were admitted this year.</p>

<p>good luck. (the act would help)</p>

<p>this might help also; from a thread i started a while ago:</p>

<p>What I didn't like</p>

<p>specifically, some of the students (prefrosh especially) seemed somewhat immature. All they seemed interested in was enjoying themselves and socializing, whereas I was interested in learning more about the school where i'll be spending the next four years of my life, as well as getting to better know my fellow classmates. I think, however, that many of the prefrosh were visiting many schools' preview days, and merely considered williams one stop of many. However, there were other prefrosh who were more mature, and who seemed more prepared for an academically challenging college environment such as williams. These were usually the students who had already decided to attend williams. The social life is a bit lacking; most of the freshman considered drunken games of beer pong satisfying entertainment. I found it immature. Not that I don't like (nor didn't attend ) beer-soaked parties, but at least it was a PARTY. Not five guys in the basement of Sage.</p>

<p>What I liked
I liked many, many things, specifically the kindness of the student body and faculty. The faculty seemed enlightened, and treated me as if I were already on campus, event though I was only a prefrosh. The students spoke honestly and openly about campus life as well as what they thought of williams. The math and stat professors, specifically, remembered that I'd sat in on their classes, and took time out of their day later to advise me on what classes to take in the fall and spring - they took my interests seriously, and helped me build a practical road to take advantage of williams's many resources.</p>

<p>When I arrived on campus, I'd only brought a very thin jacket that, although was appropriate for my hometown of Washington, DC, (it was 70 degrees here) the weather in williamstown was absolutely horrible. The admissions office was nice enough to allow me to borrow a north face coat for the ENTIRE event. I was awed at the fact that they trusted me enough to lend a prefrosh they'd never met a $150 jacket. What amazes me is that this is typical kindness at williams. Most students left their dorm rooms unlocked, or even open. You could leave $100 on a common room table, and it'd probably still be sitting there two days later. At my state U, (U of Md) you could never, ever, do such a thing. </p>

<p>The school is tiny, but beatiful and cozy. Great emphasis is put on cultivating relationships with fellow students, and introverts will probably not like williams. In a school of 2,000, where there are at least 300 students studying away at any time, you tend to meet and interact with the same people again and again. It turns into a very, very, small world, very fast. Double as fast if you're a minority. No, I change my mind - quadruple as fast. While williams is fairly diverse, there's only really a small clique of fellow minority students in any ethnic group. I ended up running into the exact same people at least five times in four days. If you like this (i do) you will love williams's campus. If you don't, this might not be the right school for you.</p>

<p>Parties (and the inevitable keg of beer) mostly are prevalent on the weekends. Campus police shut down frosh parties pretty fast - they managed to shut down a frosh party we were on our way to within minutes after word got around. Despite a drunken fight almost breaking out, and our entire row house smelling like bud light, not one campus cop even bothered to investigate a later upperclassman party.</p>

<p>As a last word, everything is communal - EVERYTHING. You WILL be using the same bathroom as 15-25 other students. They WILL walk in on you. ditto for showers/washups/etc. While this may seem unsettling at first, you get used to it pretty fast. There was actually one point during previews weekend where I was brushing my teeth and a girl walked in and nonchalantly used the bathroom while I was still brushing my teeth. Being a guy, I felt weird but it didn't bother me. As I said, you get used to it. If you really feel you need the space, people will give it to you.</p>

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<p>Thanks so much.... I was trying to decide between Rice Amherst or Williams ED and I think Ill try Williams ED....</p>

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<p>yeah, go Williams ED!
congrats rl.hill!</p>

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<p>boyhood, I have agree with rl.hill that if you want Williams, Williams will want you (with considerable $$) whether you apply ED or RD. </p>

<p>I'd not bother to explain the SATI circumstances. Just take it again, or forget it. Everything else in your profile is strong enough.</p>

<p>I think the question here is less Will you get in? and more Would you like it? </p>

<p>Have you visited Williams? Kids who like it tend to LOVE it, but for sure Williams and Williamstown is not for everyone. </p>

<p>There's a lot of overlap with Amherst in student type -- though the town of Amherst is more lively and Williamstown is surrounded by more natural beauty -- but Rice would be a completely different experience. All good choices, though. Only you can say which would be the best fit.</p>

<p>Once you've determined the type of college that suits your preference you can develop a list that includes others in the same general character.</p>

<p>Good luck and let us know how you do.</p>

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<p>Very impressive stats and acheivements... we'd love to have you at Amherst.</p>

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<p>what herst?</p>

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<p>thanks for the support.... Im visiting Williams at the end of September with this program that pays for my air fare which is great because my family could never afford flying me to the northeast...</p>

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<p>oh god no...not amherst</p>

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<p>if you want any shot at manhood, amherst is a better choice</p>

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<p>ah, yes.
"African American girl"</p>

<p>maybe at amherst's bangkok campus?</p>

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<p>Ew, my bad. The battle is lost but the war goes on.</p>

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<p>It was a clever pun on the name "boyhood", did you not get it, sixsixty? It was still a clever pun, who reads people's sexes, honestly!</p>

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<p>pun i got. clever not so much, seriously who expects cleverness from a hamster college student?</p>

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<p>Well, there's cleverness!</p>

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<p>good to know that besides biological warfare, they're also teaching sarcasm over there.</p>

<p>i think i understand the gist of our problem- what's clever at amherst is perfectly commonplace at williams. hth.</p>

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<p>confused abt ^..... good chances though.....</p>