Mentioned this in another thread but it seems UChicago is not using ED the way that other schools are. They seem to be aggressively “tricking out” from the applicant pool those who they want to admit anyway. That might be why we are hearing that around 60% of their admitted class was EDI/EDII and why over 80% of their enrolled class is ED. The yield on the EA/RD pool was around 1/3 so clearly a sizable number of eager-UChicago types that they would want to admit anyway opted for ED last year. That is, assuming they actually did NOT compromise on quality.
SCEA is more catered to high yield than ED in my opinion. An SCEA applicant is not allowed to apply to any other private schools. Ultimately limiting schools in the early (and proven higher acceptance rate) round.
ED allows for any applicant to also apply EA to any/all schools they wish. At the end of the day it’s a math game, as we all know there is no sure thing.
Also HYP SCEA has 20% of the class as recruited varsity athletes. That is quite the bump in yield in its own right.
@fbsdreams please clarify - varsity athletes are 20% of SCEA or 20% of the actual class? Also, what is the corresponding % for UChicago athletes (they applied EDI/EDII correct?).
@JBStillFlying approximately 20% of each class at HYP are recruited athletes - that would apply to each incoming class. Yield would most likely be 99%+.
UChicago would be substantially lower as they participate in less than half of the sports and thus fielding half the teams (19 with 600 +/- athletes) so @ 150 per class or 8-10%
I posted this to highlight there is no clear apples to apples comparison to any Ivy with yield.
One of the great marks of distinction, in my mind, for UChicago is its disdain for athletics.
HYP have about 200 (and often fewer) recruited athletes per class each. That’s less than 15%.
@Chrchill at #44 - less disdain now than when we were there in the late '80’s. UChicago was a founding member of the Big 10 and while there is no likelihood they will rejoin anytime soon, they seem to be trying to restore an athletic presence to the best of their abilities and within the stipulations for curriculum, etc. This is one area where they may actually want to be more like the Ivy’s, although doubling the number of athletes on campus seems very unlikely. If they try, it’ll have to be in baby steps so as not to change the character of the school or get overwhelmed with the need for additional training/athletic space, etc.
@DeepBlue86 Ivy’s have 230 slots per class plus any additional walk ons which receive some level of support. That would put recruited at about 10%, which is also what Harvard reports (10.1%).
I should have looked at this previously, but ran with the 20% reported number that competes.
I would assume UChicago also has similar make up with walk ons, but do not know off hand.
@fbsdreams 230 is the theoretical maximum but in practice (at least recently) I don’t think they get near there - see here: https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2013/10/18/future-of-athletic-recruitment-remains-uncertain/
It’d be nice if UChicago did ramp up it’s athletics though, even though my son has no interest in it (although he is athletic) but as a parent 'twould be nice to be able watch them on tv.
^^ If the football team ever ended up on TV they’d be accused of ripping off the “Wishbone” “C” emblem and the “Monsters of the Midway” nickname from Da Bears when, in fact, the reverse is what actually happened.
Chicago doesn’t have anywhere near the number of varsity sports that the Ivies have. Chicago has nine varsity men’s teams, and nine varsity women’s teams. Harvard has twenty of each.
@DeepBlue86 Yale during the Levin era was notorious for underutilizing its athletic recruitment allotment, as a matter of policy. At least some of the other Ivies use their full allotments.
I posted this on another thread, but since we’re talking about UChicago Maroons:
Sports Illustrated featured UChicago Maroons football, video starting at 4:50:
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/10/25/football-america-chicago-bears-maroons
Go Maroons!