Nondorf and Co. should be happy
Harvard: 82.8% https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics
Stanford: 81.9% https://admission.stanford.edu/apply/selection/profile.html
MIT: 75.8% http://mitadmissions.org/apply/process/stats
UChicago: 72% https://news.uchicago.edu/article/2017/10/12/diverse-class-2021-already-making-impact
Yale: <69% https://admissions.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/class_profile_2021_final.pdf
Columbia: 66.7% http://undergrad.admissions.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/class_2021_profile.pdf
Princeton: 65.9% https://admission.princeton.edu/how-apply/admission-statistics
Penn 65.4% http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/whatpennlooksfor/incoming-class-profile
Dartmouth: <61% https://news.dartmouth.edu/news/2017/05/unprecedented-increase-students-choosing-dartmouth
Cornell: 56.6% https://admissions.cornell.edu/sites/admissions.cornell.edu/files/Class%20Profile%202021.pdf
Brown: 55.7% last year https://blog.■■■■■■■■■■■/blog-0/class-of-2021-yield-rates
Duke: 53.3% http://admissions.duke.edu/images/uploads/process/DukeClass2021Profile.pdf
Northwestern: 52.9% last year https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=brown+university&s=all&id=217156
Caltech: 41% https://magazine.caltech.edu/post/meet-the-class-of-2021
Yeah but, Chicago’s yield was 66% last year - before all the shenanigans. They make all this change to move up like 2 spots in the ranking?
They actually bumped three other schools out of the way. From College Navigator (class entering fall 2016):
Stanford 82%
Harvard 79%
MIT 73%
Yale 69%
Princeton 68%
Penn 68%
UChicago 64%
Columbia 62%
Dartmouth is another big leap if that news release is accurate because College Navigator is reporting a 51% yield from the prior year. Stats announced in the spring would be prior to summer melt so perhaps that 61% preliminary yield came down a point or two (haven’t checked) but still . . . did they change their admission plan this past year?
Excluding MIT – a specialty school – UChicago’s yield is third highest. The end rules over the mean here. I am BTW very surprised at the low yield for Caltech. For what Caltech offers, it is unrivaled. Those who self select to apply there, I thought would invariably accept an offer.
Evidently they’re going to MIT instead
@JBStillFlying Dartmouth changed their application to include a “Why Dartmouth” question and rearranged their admissions office so that AOs were assigned specific regions. They think that this allowed them to select students who were really interested in accepting offers of admission.
I would have thought that Duke’s yield would have been higher.
Sorry to be the party pooper here but the total figures do not mean anything in terms of the desirability of the school. The only valuable insights that can be extracted from yield are if you compare only HYPSM yields to look at the dynamics between these five, and then if you compare RD yields ONLY for the non-HYPSM group.
I gotta say the 66% with just EA for UChicago was much more impressive than the 72% with all the new shenanigans.
@wisteria100 Duke has been this low for quite some time i think.
@Chrchill Low yield for Caltech is because it loses an insane amount of people to MIT and also due to concerns for being extremely intense. Which is true, no school really rivals Caltech in terms of rigor.
Disclaimer: I want to acknowledge that I copied this whole article from Reddit/UChicago. CC does not allow me to directly post the link and so I just copied and pasted. The original author ThanksJDR did all the work.
@Penn95 we really should not go in circles again. Penn originated the ED and now it is being hoisted on its own … by UChicago with amazing success, and you complain.
Thanks for finding and posting the yield info, @85bears46. Wow! Moved up 3 spots! And 3rd highest (excluding MIT, we’re massaging the data, lol.) Also, I really believe that UChicago is in the same league as HYP, if not better, although reading through some of the other threads, I know many would beg to differ. But I’m not budging on that though.
@uocparent Without any doubt, academically it is equal to and in many fields better than HYP. It still does not have quite the same snob appeal as H and P.
Says Harvard man @Chrchill…
By the way, Yale disclosed a yield for the class of 2021 of 71.4%…without ED: https://news.yale.edu/2017/05/16/class-2021-one-record-books . I would think the difference between that figure and what @85bears46 calculated from the class profile is last year’s gap year admits, partially offset by summer melt.
I would conclude from the above ranking that UChicago now has the highest yield of any school that uses ED.
^^And that is a function of the percentage they decide to admit ED. If they admitted 100% of their class early decision the yield would be well over 95%.
Not terribly surprising, since it admitted a larger percentage of its class ED than any other school that uses ED, and its RD yield was very high already.
Yeah, it’s a policy decision — not an achievement.
As has been said elsewhere, if HYPSM moved to ED with no EA/SCEA, or if UChicago moved to SCEA with no ED, we’d have an apples-to-apples comparison. If you use ED, and are willing to admit most of your class that way, you have much more control over yield and the overall stats profile of your admitted class. The price is losing some number of RD apps from people who think it’s not worth applying if you don’t do RD, and reducing the number of applicants in the RD round that you can offer spots to.
@DeepBlue86 Actually – I wish a were a Harvard man. I barely made it through Penn …
As the deep-browed if lamentably undereducated @Chrchill has said, we are again going in circles. I’ll play my accustomed part and protest: Yield matters not, selectivity matters not. Recruiting smart, independent-minded, Chicago-education-motivated kids is what matters. The high percentage admitted ED is merely a means of achieving the third of this trinity of desirables. I’ll be interested to see whether test score numbers for this class of 2021 bear out the first. It may be up to a UChicago education itself to create the second.