You guys kinda make me sick

<p>Maybe you like to take a look at a pinned thread on the pre-med forums:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=9848%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=9848&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think the verdict among many is that med schools and law schools care very little about which undergraduate school you attended and far more about your GPA. If they really care about the undergrad institution, don't you think that students from Berkeley, where grading is actually HARSHER, would be given a leg-up? Instead, those students actually need HIGHER GPAs than their peers from HYP to gain admission. So if you want to get into a good med school or law school, you want to go to a grade-inflated school like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.</p>

<p>The LSATs are important, but that only helps my argument. At HYS, you'll have access to much more resources to help you score better on the LSATs. You'll have better peers, better professors, better advisers, etc. In fact, one explanation for the phenomenon I presented above is that even though the average admitted student from Harvard or Princeton has a lower GPA, they have strong LSATs.</p>

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but the LSAT and GPA are more important overall and again, someone from Rochester or a comparable school with a higher LSAT/GPA would have favor in the process.

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<p>Of course they would. But that's exactly my point. The guy from Rochester would need a higher LSAT and GPA. If the two guys have the exact same GPA/LSAT, the guy from Harvard wins. And in fact, I suspect that it would be easier to get a high GPA and LSAT from Harvard for reasons which I stated above. So yeah, if you go to Rochester, you could get into med school, but it's harder. Why would students want that? A student who wants to go to a medical school will want to attend the institution that makes it easiest for that student to get in. Why work to have higher GPA/LSAT when you don't have to?</p>

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And I really don't agree that people like the pres of MIT are minorities.

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<p>What I meant is, if you look up all the presidents at all the major universities, you'll find a heck of a lot more graduated from Harvard than U of Rochester. Now, if we were talking about those who graduated from Ivy Leagues compared to no-name universities, maybe the no-name universities would win, but only because there are thousands of those compared to eight schools in the Ivy League. That's a major misconception people have. They look at Harvard Law and see a guy from U of Florida, a guy from U of Illnois, a guy from a Cal State (yeah I think I saw a guy from a Cal State) and they think "well you can get into Harvard Law from anywhere." But you only see one guy from each of those colleges and a heck of a lot more from Harvard undergrad. So even though you see many guys from no-name schools, if you attend one of those no-name schools, Harvard Law will only pick one guy out of your graduating class, tops. That's a big difference from say, 20 or 30 guys from your class if you're in a top-20 school.</p>