your top schools

College Majors Business Major
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<p>just curious as to what you guys think the top 15 or 20 undergraduate business schools so be, usnews and businessweek aside. mine would go something like this:</p>

<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>University of California-Berkeley</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>UNC-Chapel Hill</li>
<li>University of Texas-Austin</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Emory University</li>
<li>University of Virginia</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Villanova</li>
<li>University of Wisconsin-Madison</li>
<li>University of Minnesota-Twin Cities</li>
<li>University of Indiana-Bloomington</li>
<li>University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign</li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
</ol>

<p>Now a lot of those could definitely go up or down a couple spots cuz they were so close, but thats a more accurate top 20 in my book.</p>

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<p>Without Dartmouth because the obviously don't offer undergrad business, my top picks are Penn-Wharton, Berkeley-Haas and MIT-Sloan. No longer find the others interesting, to be honest.</p>

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<ol>
<li>UPenn</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>UMich</li>
<li>UC-Berk</li>
<li>UT-Austin</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
</ol>

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<ol>
<li>Penn-Wharton</li>
<li>MIT-Sloan</li>
<li>Michigan-Ross</li>
<li>NYU- Stern</li>
<li>Georgetown-McDonough</li>
</ol>

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<ol>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>University of California-Berkeley</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>UNC-Chapel Hill</li>
<li>University of Texas-Austin</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Emory University</li>
<li>University of Virginia</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>University of Indiana-Bloomington</li>
<li>University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign</li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis</li>
<li>Villanova</li>
<li>University of Wisconsin-Madison</li>
</ol>

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<p>What matters more, the jobs you get or the quality of the education? IB front office or back office, general management, consulting, MIS, placement in graduate MSF/MBA/MSQE/whatever programs, accounting, alumni network/career office, quality of internships, what? What defines business school, the undergraduate program? Do we factor in the strength of econ at some schools and not others? Carnegie has econ as part Tepper part HSS, NYU has economics both in Stern and CAS- but Emory only has econ in the college (BBA at Goizueta). Dartmouth, Chicago, Vassar, Colby, Claremont, Pomona, etc all have placement on par with some of the top undergraduate business schools, and people go into the programs considering it the equivalent of an undergraduate business program - are they not counted?</p>

<p>This is just another one of those vague threads where everyone lists x amount of top schools that are always at the top of the rankings with a few they just happen to like sprinkled in. If you wanted to break it down on certain criteria it might become more interesting, but even then the changes amongst the top 10 would be fairly insignificant.</p>

<p>As long as you work hard and get a good GPA, and do what you can RE: internships so you can leave school with a (minimum) solid year of work experience it really doesn't matter where you go unless it's Al's Backyard University and Neighborhood Grill. Hell, even if you go to Al's and you get a 3.5+ GPA in your first year or two you can transfer out and get a prettier name on your diploma.</p>

<p>Yes, Carnegie, MIT, UCB produce better quants than maybe Penn or Cornell or UMich do, and maybe NYU gives you better connections than Emory. But it's such a minuscule difference that time worrying about it is time taken away from conversing with people, making new friendships and connections for the future, working with your career office to get good internships, studying for tests and learning about new business topics.</p>

<p>If you have enough time to put together some subjective list in your head where the 1-5, 6-10, 11-15 and 16-20 are pretty much interchangeable then you have enough time to read the Journal, the Economist, FT.com, the Harvard Business Review, Inc.*, run multiple mock portfolios, start small businesses for experience now, etc, etc</p>

<p>No one gives two ****s where you went to school for undergrad once you're about two years into the work force. Most elite MBA programs won't even care if you bombed your undergrad if you can score well on the GMAT and you have years of solid work experience. I understand CC has a lot of overachievers, but you've got to learn where to put that energy.</p>

<ul>
<li>Ok, maybe not Inc.</li>
</ul>

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<p>
[quote]
Without Dartmouth because the obviously don't offer undergrad business, my top picks are Penn-Wharton, Berkeley-Haas and MIT-Sloan. No longer find the others interesting, to be honest.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Dartmouth may not have an undergrad business program, but they are the main recruiting grounds for many big ibanking and consulting companies, especially Goldman Sachs.</p>

<p>You have a better chance landing a Job in Ibanking going to Dartmouth than you do with many of the schools on your top twenty, not that they are bad.
Also their D-Plan allows you to find internships during the winter(this is when ibanking firms are most active) with little to no competition rather than the summer when ALL other college kids will be competing with you.</p>

<p>Other than that your list looks just about right. I don't think that anyone could argue that there is a business school better than Wharton. They are the Worlds number one B-School for a reason.</p>

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<p>Pretty damn well said tetrishead, I should have read yours before posting mine.</p>

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<p>Harvard?...</p>

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<p>why is anyone even trying to argue Dartmouth? So it gets better recruitment than some of the top business schools but then HYSP get better recruitment than almost every school on that list except of course Wharton.</p>

<p>I agree with tetris. in this thread too.</p>

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<p>how about rankings in terms of placement only?</p>

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<p>I don't think Harvard has undergrad business</p>

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<p>this is of course depending on who you ask and there are about a hundred threads about this on wallstreetoasis.com with more knowledgeable people than are on here.</p>

<p>Here is the list I see most commonly though</p>

<p>HYSPW
small gap
Duke, Columbia, Dartmouth, Brown(maybe), Cornell
gap
Prestigious publics like Mich. UVA and Berk. top privates like Georgetown, Stern(I'll get flamed for this one)</p>

<p>I probably left some out and of course I'm going to get flamed for leaving out someones alma-mater but that seems to be fairly accurate to what you will find elsewhere. Again, go to Wallstreetoasis.com and search those forums to get better idea than you would here.</p>

<p>This or any list based on placement is still flawed in that it doesn't take into account size of student body or which banks prefer which schools and other important factors though.</p>

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<p>Aren't these types of threads a little old by now?</p>

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<p>srsly :D</p>