<p>the other day i read on princetons website that it the only college other than 6 other colleges that give full (100%) scholarship to the NEEDY students regardless of their academic, athletic merit to the international students. does anybody know the other 6 colleges????</p>
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<p>Considering the fact that Princeton has an acceptance rate under 10% academic merit does matter. If the school is actively recruiting a high caliber athlete, athletics matter. Princeton does not give academic or merit scholarships. It only gives need based financial aid.</p>
<p>harvard
yale
mit
stanford (but not need blind for internationals)
upenn (but not need blind for internationals)
cornell?</p>
<p>am pretty sure harvard doesnt give 100% scholarship!!!.. cornel?!</p>
<p>I would strongly suggest you do more research on financial aid policy at U.S. colleges, especially the different, sometimes confusing terms, that are used most frequently.</p>
<p>Firstly, there’s a difference between “scholarship” as we international students understand it, and “financial aid”, which is the financial assistance most international students would get. One is based on “merit”, the other on “need”. However, as there are much more schools that are “need-sensitive” than schools that are “need-blind”, I would argue that for most internationals, any aid represents some kind of “merit” awards as well.</p>
<p>For merit-based scholarships, different schools have different awards, with different amounts, some are 100% scholarship that provides not only tuition, but room and board, and miscellaneous fees. I am sure there are a lot of schools with this kind of scholarships, and especially for the private schools, a lot of them don’t have resident requirement - meaning you can compete/ apply for them even if you’re an international. Some of the scholarships that I was thinking of applying to (but too lazy to actually do it) are the Jefferson Scholarships at University of Virginia, Johnson Scholarships at Washington and Lee University, Richmond Scholarships at University of Richmond, Robertson Scholarship at Duke University. Please note that even if residency is not a requirement, it’s almost always an uphill battle for international students to compete against U.S. colleges. The above-mentioned scholarships are those that I actually know have been offered to international students. There are some other scholarships which, even though there is no residency required, has had no record of international winning.</p>
<p>There’s an interesting merit-based scholarship exclusively for international students at Wesleyan University - the Freeman Asia Scholarship, that you may want to check out.</p>
<p>For need-based financial aid, the first thing I do is look at colleges that “meet full need”, even if that need is 100% of the school’s cost of attendance, for international students. There are quite a number of schools that do this: all of the Ivies (and definitely Harvard, I don’t know where you got the information that Harvard doesn’t give out 100% FA - that is positively wrong), Stanford, MIT, Duke, U Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Smith, Hamilton, Bates, Colgate, Colorado College, Macalester, Mount Holyoke, Kenyon, Trinity College, Trinity University, Connecticut College, Union College, and Manhattan College. Please note that this list is not exhaustive; I only list these schools because I personally know there have been students who got full rides financial aid there for the past three years.</p>
<p>There are some students who are concerned with schools that are “need-blind” for international students. I feel that this term is very misleading, and of little to no use to us. This is because, while some schools are indeed “need-blind”, they do not meet full need, i.e., they will admit you, but will not give you enough aid to attend their schools. Cornell College in Iowa is the first school that comes to mind, even though I am sure there are a great number of schools that practice this policy. </p>
<p>Just as there are schools that are need-blind but do not meet full need, the great majority of schools that meet full need are not need-blind. At these schools, your ability to pay is considered just as your test scores, GPA, ECs, etc. Thus, it may be super hard to get into such schools (Duke for example, enrolls only 20 - 25 internationals asking for aid each year). However, if you get into them, then finance will not be a concern. I get very very generous FA packages from Duke and Vanderbilt that I am forever grateful for.</p>
<p>Personally, I prefer the “meet full need but not need blind” schools than the “need-blind but do not meet full need”. I find it more frustrating to learn that you have admitted but cannot afford to go than to learn that you have been denied admission because you have asked for too much financial aid.</p>
<p>And of course, there are the super rich schools that are both need blind and meet full need. I believe these are the six schools that you mentioned. They are: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Dartmouth, Amherst. These are the only schools that, as of the admission cycle of 2011, are both need blind and meet full need for international students.</p>
<p>Obviously, you need top scores to even be considered for admittance, so all of their students have “merit.”</p>
<p>That said, even HYPS , which gives super-aid, expects a student summer work contribution…so that would suggest that the aid isn’t 100%.</p>
<p>Also…many schools don’t calculate int’l travel costs into their formulas.</p>
<p>Rewant…the schools in the Ivy League give need based aid only. As noted above, some of them are need aware for international students. These schools offer aid to students based on family financial information ONLY. There are no merit scholarships at all.</p>
<p>BUT the first thing one must do is get accepted. 90% of those who apply do NOT get accepted. In that 90% are some very well qualified applicants. These schools are not a sure thing admit for anyone (unless you happen to be the president’s child or recently won a nobel prize). </p>
<p>Harvard DOES give full need based awards to students with VERY significant financial need. So does Cornell…again…students with VERY significant financial need.</p>
<p>All of these schools use multiple forms to determine financial need…and the SCHOOLS determine your need, not you.</p>
<p>There also are many colleges and universities that only grant one or two very big scholarships each year to international students. Most international students don’t take the time to identify these places, so the competition can be lower than at a more famous institution that give lots of scholarships.</p>
<p>This is the list of schools that are 100% “need Blind” for internationals but that is for admissions only.</p>
<p>Harvard University
Princeton University
Yale University
Dartmouth College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Amherst College
Williams College</p>
<p>Yale, like most other schools is “need based” for scholarships. See below:</p>
<p>Yale’s financial aid policies for foreign citizens are similar to those for U.S. citizens: need-blind admissions and need-based aid. “Need-blind” means that Yale College admits students on the basis of academic and personal promise, without regard to their ability to pay. “Need-based” means that financial aid packages are based on individual needs assessments, not based on merit awards. International students are evaluated using a needs analysis that takes into account the relative differences between the US economy and the economy of students’ home countries.</p>
<p>these 10% acceptance rates that are being talked about (I think) are for domestic students.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t be surprised if the acceptance rate for int’l students is 5% or less.</p>
<p>they do have a quota for internationals who need aid. albeit a VERY small quota. I have a relative who got a full ride scholarship to harvard. and he’s lived in India all his life.</p>
<p>Meeting your “need” does not equal “full ride” or “full scholarship.”</p>
<p>The school defines your need and meets it. They determine what you can afford, and the balance due may or may not be what an individual family can afford.</p>
<p>So if Princeton (to use your example) accepts you, they promise to meet 100% of your need. They might decide you can afford $10,000, and they will meet 100% of the REST, leaving you with a bill for $10,000 per year. That is NOT a 100% scholarship.</p>
<p>There are other schools with excellent programs, such as my fav, Berea:</p>
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<p>[Costs</a> and Financial Aid for International Students | International Students : Admissions - Berea College](<a href=“http://www.berea.edu/admissions/international/costs-and-financial-aid.asp]Costs”>http://www.berea.edu/admissions/international/costs-and-financial-aid.asp)</p>
<p>And international students MUST show evidence that they have enough funds to pay for the year of college (this can include financial aid and approved loans) or they will not be able to get a visa to study in the U.S.</p>
<p>and is this like for ANY course u take? as in, i have heard that if ya go for a med course, they HARDLY give any aid?! … is it like true?</p>
<p>US med schools offer NO aid (zero, none, zilch, nada) to international students. Not “hardly any”. NONE.</p>
<p>But you’re way ahead of yourself. You first have to complete your undergrad degree before you can even contemplate a US med school.</p>
<p>You cannot get a education visa to enter the US without proof that you have sufficient funds to pay for your education and provide for your support. And yes, that mean even if it’s for one class.</p>
<p>ooh! ok… thanks WOWMom… :))…
and also, going off-topic, but which field-profession-course do u think is gonna go to sky these coming years?! i think biotechnology will be the first for sure…</p>
<p>Williams is NOT need-blind for international students</p>
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<p>Sorry for the misinformation on Williams, it appears they changed last year. See below:</p>
<p>The cost of international aid in the last decade rose by more than 200% (more than $4 million). In the College’s changed financial situation, that rate of growth is unsustainable. One way to reduce it would be to have fewer international students. But no one wants that and no one wants it to be the case that all of our international students are able to pay the full fee.</p>
<p>The way to avoid either of those outcomes is to use intelligently some form of need-awareness for international applicants. This does not mean going back to the two-pool system in place before the Class of 2006. It also does not mean that the Financial Aid Office will compute the need of each international aid applicant and the Admission Office will then admit the most desirable international applicants until the aid runs out.</p>
<p>The Admission Office will know which applicants have applied for aid, as it does now, but will not know the level of each applicant’s need. The office will then look at the international pool as a whole and aim to build an entering cohort that is not only academically strong but that is geographically and economically diverse and that in terms of aid approximates a rough dollar target that will begin where it is now and grow over the years at a rate slower than it has been. This new system should result in entering cohorts of international students that roughly resemble the one that we are blessed with now and at a rate of cost increase that is sustainable. When four classes have been admitted this way the increase in our international aid budget should be about $1.2 million less than it would have been. We do not expect this change to affect dramatically the pool of international applicants, which is extremely strong.</p>