<p>^ Taking Upper Division courses would signify that you had already reached 3rd year status and would be ineligible for transfer in the UC system.</p>
<p>Yep, CALBear2009 and I have mentioned the same thing again and again.</p>
<p>but what if most of the units were from AP credits in high school</p>
<p>AP credits wouldn't count towards Upper Division coursework (only lower division prerequisites).</p>
<p>yeah but it would help you reach 3rd year status so would that count against you</p>
<h1>of units is 1 thing.</h1>
<p>The courses that you completed is another.</p>
<p>For example, you can take all AP in highschool + a bunch of GEs in college so that you have 100 units or more but even if you are missing the major courses, you still have to take them to get to the junior level courses because usually upper division courses require preparation. For example, optimization math course (upper division) require math major to finish 3 calculus + linear algebra+ differential equation before we can take it. </p>
<p>Also, to graduate, beside units, you must complete certain major courses and many others. No matter how many units you have, even if you miss one of those courses, you can't graduate. </p>
<p>Now, you might think if you take a bunch of AP in highschool plus GEs in college so that you have like 180 units or so, you may need like <1 year to graduate. Nope that won't happen, if you haven't touched the upper division courses, no matter how many units you have, you still have to complete a bunch of upper division courses to graduate.</p>
<p>Note that I have repeated the same thing over and over again to emphasize the points. I don't know why some of you are so over-concerned about the # of units.</p>
<p>i go to a UC and i only need 60 quarter units to take upper division courses which is 2nd year level and most of the courses do not need pre-reqs. so by my second year i would be taking mostly upper division courses. i don't see why that would make me inelligible to apply for transfer.</p>
<p>If you "finish" upper division courses + your units exceed the limit set by the UCs ==> ineligible to apply to transfer.</p>
<p>"UCLA only admits transfer students from 4-year institutions who are at the junior level (minimum 60/90 semester/quarter units; maximum 86/129 semester/quarter units). We do not allow students to disregard any transferable coursework. (You must report all attempted college work, even if you do not think it is transferable or do not want the credit.) Therefore, a senior at a 4-year institution is not likely to be admitted."</p>
<p>ok cause at first you said "you can not transfer if you have taken UPPER DIVISION courses"</p>
<p>now its if you "finish"</p>
<p>so you can take upper division classes as long as you don't go over the units.</p>
<p>i emailed ucla engineering department, they said it doesnt matter how many units u have taken, as long as the number of units u took in 4 year school is less than that limit.</p>
<p>
That is correct.
However, there is NO upper division courses at any CCs because they are only offered at 4-year institutions like UCs, Calstate, private universities...</p>
<p>ok kevin, jk, cal and everyone else who understands this way better that I DO: please help! </p>
<p>I'm coming from a FOREIGN university with a 2 years worth of units, and to my estimation its about 50 transferrable semester( 75 quarter) units. And right now i'm attending De Anza Community college. And since i'm a econ major , my prereqs at De Anza come out to about 20 quarter units . So if you add that up thats about 95 quarter units( CC and university) .
I haven't taken any upper division courses ，but if I follow the IGETC which acculumates to 65 quarter units</p>
<p>it will be 75+20+65= 160 units .</p>
<p>Even though i did not go over the 80 semester limit at my four years, and have not taken any upper divison courses, I'm going to be way over the 105 quarter limit all together.</p>
<p>Therefore I don't know what to do. should I follow the IGETC still? or forget about it?</p>
<p>to clarify my question up a little bit:</p>
<p>what I am asking is this. I know I am eligible to transfer because I did not hit the 80 semester limit at UC berkeley or UCLA. However. If I continue to follow the IGETC system. I will be way pas the 105 quarter units limit cap (160) that I am afraid they will just automatically reject me.</p>
<p>this is what the website says: <a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.ed...pplying.html#5%5B/url%5D">http://www.universityofcalifornia.ed...pplying.html#5</a>
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<p>student who has completed 80 or fewer UC-transferable semester units at a four-year university and then transfers to a community college WILL NOT ACCRUE EXCESS UNITS AND WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR ADMISSION</p>
<p>my question is: how do they know I will not accrue excess units? I mean, I already have 160 if I follow the IGETC!</p>
<p>I hope I made my questions clear. I have been asking around (cc counselors. uc counselors.) and they have not given me a good answer!please help!</p>
<p>Firstly, you need to deal with your CC BEFORE you try and figure out what your UC situation is. By this I mean that you need to talk to the people at your CC that will decide if your classes will even transfer to your CC. If they did not, then you will have to start from zero units (which might be a good thing). </p>
<p>If you already know that your classes DID transfer, then you are responsible to figure out what parts of the IGETC your classes have fulfilled.</p>
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how do they know I will not accrue excess units? I mean, I already have 160 if I follow the IGETC!
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<p>I don't think you're interpreting this policy of their's correctly. This does not mean that they are PREDICTING that you won't accrue excess units. This is their policy. This means that YOU CAN TAKE AS MANY UNITS AS YOU WANT AT A CC --- or in other words, you will NOT accrue excess units because they DEFINE what excess units is.</p>
<p>In case I wasn't clear, they are referring to excess units as someone who has (as would be in your case) 160 FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITY units.</p>
<p>If you take 98759476983475934 units at your community college, you will still be eligible to apply for transfer, but they will only transfer over 80 semester-units-worth --- not 98759476983475934.</p>
<p>Hope this helped.</p>
<p>thanks grey.
first of all, foreign work will not satisfy any part of the IGETC. so if i do follow the IGETC. no course units from my foreign work will satisfy any of the areas.
second. just to make sure I get it. so as long as I do not go over the 80 semester unit cap for a 4 years university. I can take as many units as I want at a cc even if I already have alot of semester units from my foreign university??? so that means I can finish my preq s and my IGETC without worrying how many credits I have in total??</p>
<p>ok, so if your foreign units did not satisfy any part of the IGETC then do you even have them on your transcript? In other words, did they transfer over? If someone at your CC told you that they don't fulfill any GEs, then they must have told you if they would transfer.</p>
<p>yes they are UC transferrable courses, but they do not satisfy the IGETC because IGETC doesn not accept any foreign work at all. So the courses I taken at the 4 years university could only be counted as credits. but not eligible to satisfy the areas on the IGETC. I hope i explained that clearly</p>
<p>You shouldn't worry too much then. There is no unit cap for community colleges so you don't need to be afraid that you will go over.</p>
<p>Also, since you did not take over the excess amount of 4-year university units, then you will still be eligible to apply.</p>
<p>Of course, you should talk to a counselor and/or do a search on the websites of whichever UCs you plan on applying to, and ask someone in order to confirm.</p>
<p>thanks! jw. how do you get to talk to the UC counselors who really knows about the stuff? it seems like some of the ones I get don't know the stuff really well</p>