<p>ok so my parents claimed my 1098t last year the 2011 one and they got a education credit from it. i noticed on that 2011 1098t it claimed the spring 2012 jan - march term since box 7 is ticked i didn't get a 1098t form for 2012 because my grants were more then my out of pocket tuition fees payment that what my college said, Also i only went to college in the spring and fall 2012 last year; i have to enter in my tution fees on my tax return for 2012 without a 1098t because i didnt get one for 2012 so,i was wondering on my tax return do i include the spring 2012 tution fees in or not or just the fall 2012 tuition fees on my tax return because the spring 2012 tuition fees was on my 2011 1098t already and my parents claimed the 2011 1098t already.</p>
<p>Also am new here by the way</p>
<p>Are you still eligible to claimed as a dependent on your parents federal tax return? If so, you cannot take the AOC on your return.</p>
<p>If you ARE eligible to take the AOC, you’ve already answered your own question</p>
<p>“i was wondering on my tax return do i include the spring 2012 tution fees in or not or just the fall 2012 tuition fees on my tax return because the spring 2012 tuition fees was on my 2011 1098t already and my parents claimed the 2011 1098t already”</p>
<p>You cannot claim the sames expenses twice. Any expenses from Spring semester (Jan 12 - March 12), have already been claimed on your parents 2011 federal tax return.</p>
<p>no am not a dependent this year, so on tax return (turbo tax) do i jut include the tuition fees for fall 2012 then?</p>
<p>Fall only. Spring fees were included on your parents 2011 term, because they were listed on the 2011 1098-T</p>
<p>We don’t have enough info to tell you what you can and need to put on your 2012 return. It only takes $4000 of expenses to get the max AOC and we don’t know how large the expenses on the 2011 1098T were.</p>
<p>In order to answer your question we need more info.</p>
<p>1) how old are you?
2) Why aren’t your parents claiming you as a dependent for 2012? What matters is whether they can claim you as a dependent, not whether they are claiming you. If it has to do with support, scholarships and grants a student receives are not considered support the student provided themselves.
3) We need the numbers in the boxes from the 2011 1098T.
4) What was the amount of expenses your parents used on their 2011 return to claim the AOC?
5) Were you a freshman in fall 2011? Was that your first semester of college and your parents have only claimed the AOC once?
6) You are going to need to look at the actual bills or online account from your 3 semesters and find the amounts billed each semester and the date(s) and the amount of scholarships/grants credited and the date(s). Also, if you have receipts, the amounts of required book/supply purchases and the dates.</p>
<p>Rather than claiming the credit, you may need to report your excess scholarships and grants as taxable income on your 2012 tax return. Did you have other income in 2011 and/or 2012?</p>
<p>Are you aware that the IRS won’t start processing 2012 tax returns claiming the AOC until mid February so this may not be as urgent as you think.</p>
<p>I would ask that you use periods, other appropriate punctuation and paragraphs in your reply to make it easier to read and understand.</p>
<p>hi annoyingdad ill answer your questions sir:
1)20 in 2012
2)because i was a part time student last year am i made $14018 last year at work
3)2011 1098t is
Box #1: Payments Received For Qualified Tuition and Related Expenses: $1,546.86<br>
Box #4: Adjustments Made For A Prior Year: none<br>
Box #5: Scholarships or Grants: $2,587.98 .
Box #6: Adjustments To Scholarships or Grants For A Prior Year: none
Box #7:Checked if Amounts Included For Academic Period in January through March of Future Reporting Year Yes<br>
Box #8: Checked If At Least Half-Time Student: Yes<br>
Box #9: Checked if a graduate Student No</p>
<p>4) it was $827 they got from it and they claimed the lifetime learning credit not the AOC</p>
<p>5) No, No, they claimed the life time learning credit once never the AOC</p>
<p>also my fall term 2012 tution fees and grants are:</p>
<p>grants: $1000
tuition fees: $1381</p>
<p>i had to pay 381 out of pocket</p>
<p>i have another question may sound silly you see box 7 in the 2011 1098t i know that includes the spring term 2012 tuition fee but does it include the grant for that semester in box 5</p>
<p>Yeah, I’m thinking, I’m thinking. :)</p>
<p>Let me see if I’ve got this right, correct me if anything is wrong. </p>
<p>You didn’t attend college at all in 2011. You got a 2011 1098T because you were billed and paid(since box 1 was used) $1546.86 in 2011 for spring 2012. Also, your account was credited with 2587.98 of scholarships and grants in 2011 for spring 2012.</p>
<p>Were you billed for and did you pay any other amounts in 2012 for spring 2012? Did you buy books/supplies for spring 2012 and when did you buy them, 2011 or 2012?</p>
<p>In your answer to question 4), was the $827 the amount of the credit your parents received or the amount of the expenses they used to claim the credit? I’m looking for the amount of expenses used to claim it. Right now, since scholarships/grants exceeded tuition/fees for 2011, I don’t see any expenses that could have been used for the credit in 2011.</p>
<p>And unless you were billed for and paid any other expenses for spring 2012 in 2012, there is nothing from spring 2012 for you to use for 2012 taxes.</p>
<p>Given that 2011 scholarships/grants exceeded tuition/fees in 2011, the difference should have been reported as taxable income on your 2011 tax return if you earned enough to have to file.</p>
<p>I also don’t see why you didn’t get a 1098T for 2012. The bulk of the scholarship, grants were reported on the 2011 1098T. Unless, are you attending school spring 2013? Have you been billed and paid for spring 2013 in 2012? Were scholarships/grants credited to your account in 2012 for spring 2013? If the answer to either of those questions is yes, what was the amount?</p>
<p>I attended school in 2011 Fall and spring of that year, the 2011 1098t was billed for fall 2011 and spring 2012, the spring 2011 was billed on the 2010 1098t.</p>
<p>I brought books for spring 2012 in December 2011</p>
<p>It was the amount of credit they received, they didn’t really get a refund from it just lowered there tax debt</p>
<p>Yes am attending school right now spring 2013, and my grants and me paying put of pocket for tuition fees for spring 2013 happened on January 2013. </p>
<p>For spring 2013 i got $750 in grants tuition fees altogether are $1,304.42 i had to payed the remaining 554.42, and pay about $250 for books</p>
<p>Ok, to answer the main question of your original post, from what you have posted, you can’t claim any spring 2012 expenses on your 2012 taxes. It made it easier that your 2011 1098T used box 1. So all spring 2012 costs were paid in 2011. It only matters when you pay and when scholarships/grants are credited.</p>
<p>Having said that I don’t see the expenses that your folks could have used for a credit in 2011. Scholarships/grants have to be subtracted from the expenses. In fact you should have declared the difference - books/supplies on your 2011 return if you had enough other income to be required to file. Did you file a 2011 return?</p>
<p>And since your spring 2013 expenses and grants were paid/credited in 2013 there aren’t any expenses to claim there either.</p>
<p>So that leaves fall 2012. If you are confident of the fall numbers you posted, I would call the school again, see if you can talk to a more senior person, and get a better explanation of why you didn’t get a 2012 1098T. It doesn’t appear grants were greater than expenses.</p>
<p>In the end, if you are confident of your numbers and have bills/account statements and receipts/cancelled checks to show you paid $381 + books and didn’t have any other grants credited to your account in 2012, then I would take a credit on those expenses.</p>
<p>The checkbox 7 notes say it only applies to boxes 1 and 2.</p>
<p>Look at the ACTUAL DATES and the ACTUAL AMOUNTS that you and your parents paid in 2011 and 2012. If you did not pay for Semester 2 until January, it doesn’t matter if the college listed it on the 2011 1099t form. What matters from your point of view (and your parents) is when the bills were paid.</p>
<p>So, whatever your parents paid for tuition, fees, and other qualified expenses from 01/01/2011 through 12/31/2011 is what they should have used on their 2011 taxes. Whatever you and your parents paid for tuition, fees, and other qualified expenses from 01/01/2012 through 12/31/2012 is what someone would use for the 2012 tax return.</p>
<p>If your parents didn’t claim the AOC, why didn’t they? It almost always is the better choice. Tell them to file federal 1040x for 2011 so that they can get the bigger amount of money back.</p>
<p>I had thought you had said somewhere in your posts that the spring 2012 grant was credited to your account in 2011 but I guess not. Look at your spring 2012 bill and see when the spring 2012 grant was credited. That grant plus your fall grant would exceed your fall expenses resulting in not getting a 2012 1098T.</p>
<p>hey annoying dad yes my grants for spring 2012 was credited in december in 2011 my college said i didnt get a 1098t for 2012 because my grants is higher then my out of pocket payment which is true but is this a legit reason why they cant give me a 1098t</p>
<p>No it’s not. From the 1098T instructions saying when schools don’t have to provide a 1098T:</p>
<p>Students whose qualified tuition and related expenses
are entirely waived or paid entirely with scholarships;</p>
<p>So the grants have to be equal to or more than total expenses, not just out of pocket expenses.</p>