1600 new cadets

<p>I've heard that USMA will let in around 1600 people for the class of 2010, 1251 entered the class of 2009, and that the cadre will try extremely hard to get people to quit. Any truth to this?</p>

<p>where did you hear this?</p>

<p>That sounds about right, they are doing it to address the shortage of 2nd LT's and no they won't try to make people quit</p>

<p>how will this effect the jobs given out of west point? same proportion to each branch? 400 more infantry?</p>

<p>There is no way that they can let in 1600 people for 2010; there simply is not the means to house and deal with that much of an influx. Seeing as 2006 will only graduate around 850, there's no way to find room for 700 new cadets during the year.</p>

<p>The cadre cant make new cadets quit, they're too strictly regulated by officers. Your only excuse for quitting is yourself.</p>

<p>I heard something like 1300.</p>

<p>I heard that they would increase the number by about 100. And they work too hard to bring on each new cadet and help them to succeed. They will not <em>try</em> to get anyone to quit, although if you take things too personally, it may seem like this is the case sometimes.</p>

<p>And there is NO shortage of 2LTs; there is a shortage of Captains. In fact, right now, there are too many 2LTs.</p>

<p>Oh, and if they think you're a horrible person/not fit for the Academy, they will try to get you to quit. I've seen it happen several times this year. But you have to be a MAJOR screwup for that to happen. As long as you try and show genuine effort that won't happen.</p>

<p>"Seeing as 2006 will only graduate around 850, there's no way to find room for 700 new cadets during the year"</p>

<p>A cadet told me that there are brracks that currently are not used so there would be more than enough room a plebe class of 1600.</p>

<p>The size of the corps of cadets is determined by congress. I doubt the 1600 number is correct.</p>

<p>Wow... That Cadet was INCREDIBLY wrong. There most certainly is not room for a Plebe class of 1600. All of the barracks are being used, and many people are rooming 3 in a two person room (like me).</p>

<p>I heard somewhere between 1300-1400.</p>

<p>From who? Who starts these rumors?</p>

<p>It's not a rumor that they want to increase the size of the Corps. Congress will have to authorize it and will vote on the decision if they haven't done so already.</p>

<p>Well, in theory they can definitely make some more room. For example, they're renovating the 50th Divisions right now; nobody is living there. I've heard rumors that my company is headed there next year, meaning there will be quite a bit more room. I'm not sure how much room, exactly, but I've heard they'll be increasing the number of cadets as well.</p>

<p>yeah, but by no means can they take 1600. I know H2 is moving from Bradley to Pershing, so H1 or H3 will be moving someplace else, but still, that just makes Bradley a bit less cramped, seeing as it's like a housing project right now...The lost 50's can take, at most, a company I'd say.</p>

<p>But yes, the sizes of classes has been solidly increasing. 2006 only had 1200, and it's been going up each year. I think the end state is for around 4400 in the Corps, and we're at 4100ish right now.</p>

<p>The Corps actually reached 4601 enrolled cadets in 1983. The largest plebe class enrolled was 1387 in 1981. So the 1400 numbers being discuss are not out of the question. I would think 1600 would definitely pose a facilities challenge.</p>

<p>As another interesting bit of history, I entered the Air Force Academy in 1974, right at the tail end of the Viet Nam war when there were similar concerns about getting enough 2LTs into the service. Our class entered with 1630 cadets! Of course we only graduated 981, so the attrition rate was such that the overcrowding only lasted for about a year or so.</p>

<p>This is from the Congressional bill dealing with the Academies.. other sections give details of who gets in from where ....</p>

<p>(j)(1) Beginning with the 2003-2004 academic year, the Secretary
of the Army may prescribe annual increases in the cadet strength
limit in effect under subsection (a). For any academic year, any
such increase shall be by no more than 100 cadets or such lesser
number as applies under paragraph (3) for that year. Such annual
increases may be prescribed until the cadet strength limit is
4,400. However, no increase may be prescribed for any academic year
after the 2007-2008 academic year.</p>

<p>so up to 1351, id estimate 1300?</p>