<p>I don't have time to go through all those schools, I was wondering if someone could suggest some small liberal arts colleges that are strong in sciences.</p>
<p>I don't know how small qualifies as "small" for your desire in liberal arts colleges. Carleton is just one of many LACs that has a strong science program. The Rugg's guidebook might be the best fast way to generate a list that fits your major interests.</p>
<p>Is there anywhere where I can find historic USNWR rankings?</p>
<p>Why would you want those?</p>
<p>The Chronicle of Higher Ed. published historical rankings a while back:</p>
<p>Use the box at the top left to toggle between LACs and University rankings.</p>
<p>Here's a bump of the thread to remind all of you to apply to a good variety of colleges, including at least one sure-bet safety, for the regular admission round.</p>
<p>Cuny Baruch
Cuny City College - Grove School of Engineering.</p>
<p>Cornell College and Beloit</p>
<p>Just found this thread. Sometimes it's difficult to remember, here on CC, that the college admissions process is nerve-wracking, competitive, etc., for only a small proportion of colleges in the U.S.</p>
<p>I think TA's list serves as a useful proxy for evaluating admissions stress: if your target colleges <em>aren't</em> on this list, you don't have nearly so much to worry about it. My rough rule of thumb has been competitive admissions affect the top 100 universities and top 50 LAC's. Moreover, for top students, only the top 30/20 or so are matters for concern.</p>
<p>Hi, TheDad, </p>
<p>thanks for your comments. What you said is one way to put it. If a student is a high-stats student (like the stereotypical CC student posting a "what is my chances?" thread in an Ivy League forum), many colleges on my list are matches, or even safeties. And for a very broad group of students, many of those colleges will be moderate "reaches" to which they have a decent chance of being admitted. For a student with broad horizons, there are a lot of good college possibilities.</p>
<p>(reading the 1st post)
I think you should put 2 asterix to the 30 MOST prestigious and best universities. I mean, how can you put Holyoke and Harvard at paralell level?</p>
<ul>
<li>Just a suggestion *</li>
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<p>Beware of this school. Maine</a> Maritime Academy Watch</p>
<p>That school has never been on my list.</p>
<p>Humboldt state is a very good school that often gets overlooked, partly because of its size, its location, its status as a state school, and its reputation to be a party school, but like all schools, if you want to parties, you can find them, but you can also find a high quality education. Plus, you can transfer from Humboldt to Berkely with ease.</p>
<p>As much as I would have to say otherwise...</p>
<p>The U.S. Air Force Academy needs to be on the list and I don't see how it can't be. 19% applicants admitted, nuff said.</p>
<p>I go to the U.S. Naval Academy, and I'll tell you just from the caliber of people, the U.S. Air Force Academy is nearly identical as far as students and faculty are concerned.</p>
<p>Allow me to repeat myself: </p>
<p>
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If you think a particular college you know about should be listed, please contact the guidebook editors, magazine editors, or nonprofit organization committees who compiled the lists I consulted. Most lists of colleges expand over time, and I'm sure that if you write a clearly written, carefully evidenced letter that that will persuade the compilers of each list to take a second look at the college you advocate for.
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<p>In the specific case of the Air Force Academy as contrasted with the Military Academy and Naval Academy, I presume the Barrons definition of selectivity sets a cut-off line based on multiple criteria about the enrolled class (explained on page 239 of the massive</a> 2007 edition of the Barrons guidebook), and some colleges must be just above that line, and some just below it. Each college gets to set its own admission criteria, and the Barrons guide simply reports a summary statistic for the enrolled class at each college.</p>
<p>Here's my latest update of the consensus list of most noteworthy colleges. It has reduced in size a little bit. Asterisks next to each college name are based on the Barrons system of rating college selectivity, a methodology decided by the Barrons editors, not by me. More asterisks can be taken to mean that the college is harder to get into, and possibly also that the college provides you with more smart classmates to learn from. </p>
<p>Agnes Scott College (Decatur, GA) *
Allegheny College (Meadville, PA) *
American University (Washington, DC) **
Amherst College (Amherst, MA) ***
Barnard College (New York, NY) ***
Bates College (Lewiston, ME) ***
Baylor University (Waco, TX) *
Boston College (Chestnut Hill, MA) ***
Boston University (Boston, MA) **
Bowdoin College (Brunswick, ME) ***
Brandeis University (Waltham, MA) ***
Brigham Young University (Provo, UT) **
Brown University (Providence, RI) ***
Bryn Mawr College (Bryn Mawr, PA) **
Bucknell University (Lewisburg, PA) ***
California Institute of Technology (Pasadena, CA) ***
Carleton College (Northfield, MN) ***
Carnegie Mellon University (Pittsburgh, PA) ***
Case Western Reserve University (Cleveland, OH) ***
Claremont McKenna College (Claremont, CA) ***
Clemson University (Clemson, SC) *
Colby College (Waterville, ME) ***
Colgate University (Hamilton, NY) ***
College of New Jersey (Ewing, NJ) ***
College of William and Mary (Williamsburg, VA) ***
College of the Holy Cross (Worcester, MA) ***
Colorado College (Colorado Springs, CO) *
Columbia University (New York, NY) ***
Connecticut College (New London, CT) ***
Cooper Union (New York, NY) ***
Cornell University (Ithaca, NY) ***
Dartmouth College (Hanover, NH) ***
Davidson College (Davidson, NC) ***
DePauw University (Greencastle, IN) *
Denison University (Granville, OH) *
Dickinson College (Carlisle, PA) **
Duke University (Durham, NC) ***
Emory University (Atlanta, GA) ***
Fordham University (Bronx, NY) *
Franklin and Marshall College (Lancaster, PA) *
Furman University (Greenville, SC) **
George Washington University (Washington, DC) ***
Georgetown University (Washington, DC) ***
Georgia Institute of Technology (Atlanta, GA) **
Gettysburg College (Gettysburg, PA) *
Grinnell College (Grinnell, IA) **
Gustavus Adolphus College (St. Peter, MN) *
Hamilton College (Clinton, NY) ***
Harvard University (Cambridge, MA) ***
Harvey Mudd College (Claremont, CA) ***
Haverford College (Haverford, PA) ***
Illinois Wesleyan University (Bloomington, IL) **
Johns Hopkins University (Baltimore, MD) ***
Kenyon College (Gambier, OH) ***
Lafayette College (Easton, PA) ***
Lawrence University (Appleton, WI) **
Lehigh University (Bethlehem, PA) **
Macalester College (St. Paul, MN) ***
Marquette University (Milwaukee, WI) *
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Cambridge, MA) ***
Miami University (Oxford, OH) *
Middlebury College (Middlebury, VT) ***
Mount Holyoke College (South Hadley, MA) **
Muhlenberg College (Allentown, PA) **
New College of Florida (Sarasota, FL) **
New York University (New York, NY) ***
North Carolina State University (Raleigh, NC) *
Northwestern University (Evanston, IL) ***
Oberlin College (Oberlin, OH) ***
Occidental College (Los Angeles, CA) ***
Ohio State University (Columbus, OH) *
Penn State University Park (State College, PA) *
Pepperdine University (Malibu, CA) *
Pomona College (Claremont, CA) ***
Princeton University (Princeton, NJ) ***
Reed College (Portland, OR) ***
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (Troy, NY) **
Rhodes College (Memphis, TN) *
Rice University (Houston, TX) ***
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (New Brunswick, NJ) *
Sarah Lawrence College (Bronxville, NY) *
Scripps College (Claremont, CA) ***
Skidmore College (Saratoga Springs, NY) *
Smith College (Northampton, MA) ***
Southwestern University (Georgetown, TX) *
St. Olaf College (Northfield, MN) *
Stanford University (Stanford, CA) ***
State University of New York at Binghamton (NY) *
State University of New York at Stony Brook (NY) *
Swarthmore College (Swarthmore, PA) ***
Syracuse University (Syracuse, NY) *
Texas A and M University (College Station, TX) *
Trinity College (Hartford, CT) **
Tufts University (Medford, MA) ***
Tulane University (New Orleans, LA) ***
Union College (Schenectady, NY) *
United States Air Force Academy (Colorado Springs, CO) **
United States Military Academy (West Point, NY) ***
United States Naval Academy (Annapolis, MD) ***
University of California: Berkeley (Berkeley, CA) **
University of California: Los Angeles (Los Angeles, CA) ***
University of California: San Diego (La Jolla, CA) *
University of Chicago (Chicago, IL) ***
University of Delaware (Newark, DE) *
University of Florida (Gainesville, FL) *
University of Georgia (Athens, GA) *
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (Urbana-Champaign, IL) **
University of Maryland--College Park (College Park, MD) *
University of Miami (Coral Gables, FL) ***
University of Michigan (Ann Arbor, MI) **
University of Minnesota--Twin Cities (Minneapolis, MN) *
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Chapel Hill, NC) ***
University of Notre Dame (Notre Dame, IN) ***
University of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, PA) ***
University of Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh, PA) *
University of Richmond (Richmond, VA) ***
University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) ***
University of Southern California (Los Angeles, CA) ***
University of Texas at Austin (Austin, TX) *
University of Tulsa (Tulsa, OK) *
University of Virginia (Charlottesville, VA) ***
University of Wisconsin--Madison (Madison, WI) *
University of the South (Sewanee, TN) *
Vanderbilt University (Nashville, TN) ***
Vassar College (Poughkeepsie, NY) ***
Villanova University (Villanova, PA) **
Wabash College (Crawfordsville, IN) *
Wake Forest University (Winston-Salem, NC) ***
Washington University in St. Louis (St. Louis, MO) ***
Washington and Lee University (Lexington, VA) ***
Wellesley College (Wellesley, MA) ***
Wesleyan University (Middletown, CT) ***
Wheaton College (Wheaton, IL) *
Whitman College (Walla Walla, WA) **
Williams College (Williamstown, MA) ***
Wofford College (Spartanburg, SC) *
Yale University (New Haven, CT) ***</p>
<p>This is a bump of the thread to draw attention to my updated list (immediately above), with best wishes to the applicants in class of 2008.</p>
<p>Good luck to all applicants and parents who are in the Pacific Northwest and flooded. Our prayers and best wishes go out to you.</p>
<p>Grave digging an epic topic</p>