2 things im wondering..

<p>Ive been hereing a lot about needing 2 years of a foreign language. I never took a foreign language in high school and am wondering if u really need it or not. Some people have said it is required but one of my teachers that applied their a while back said that was a lie. I am bilangual so i never thought i would need to learn another language.</p>

<p>The second thing im wondering is if im able to get in or not. Im going to be applying next october and by then im expected to have around a 4.20 GPA, ranked in the top 30% and with a ACT score of 20 (maybe higher because im enrolled in a ACT Prep Program) Im not in any extra curricular activities. I want to go their to study architecture. What do you think are my chances of getting in?</p>

<p>Thats all i wanted to know, thanks for your reply's.</p>

<p>Your ACT score could hurt you...badly. Same with your ranking...which isn't exactly bad, but could definitely be better.</p>

<p>As far as the foreign language issue goes, you need to have four years of a language in high school.</p>

<p>Your teacher is both correct and wrong. A "while back" there was no foreign language requirement; that is not now except that international students from non-English speaking countries have to show proficiency in English rather than their native tongue. Otherwise, UIUC officially requires 2 years of a foreign language. Nevertheless, a small number, in 2005 less than 1%, get admitted without meeting the requirement. That group usually consists of (a) those that have a valid excuse for not taking foreign language such as their high school did not offer it or so few sessions were offered that it was impossible to complete two years without giving up another requirement (yes, there are still some small, usually country type high schools that have those issues), (b) those who can prove by testing they do not need it, like a bilingual applicant who takes and submits an AP test score showing proficiency, or (c) those, either a minority or an athlete, that the college wants to take a chance on without it. You might choose the second option and take the AP test in May of this year; however, that does not guarantee a waiver, which you must request in the personal statement you submit with the application for admission, as it is still up to UIUC to decide to give you one.</p>

<p>As to your chances for admission otherwise, be aware that your class rank and projected ACT score is very low for admission to architecture or for any program at UIUC (to have a decent chance at architecture you need to move up in class rank to at least the top 20% and in ACT by 7 points or more).</p>

<p>Keep in mind though that even if you had two years of a foreign language in high school, you'll have to take additional language classes once you get to UIUC...unless you have completed four years in high school.</p>

<p>I wouldent be able to take an AP test in school because they dont have it for the language i know. They only have Spanish, Italian and French and i would need one for Assyrian which is not well known by anybody in the area that i live in.</p>

<p>The reason my rank is so low is because of my freshman year. I didnt really start trying until i started sophomore year. If i had freshman year down i wouldeve been in the top 20% for sure. When i talked to a college counselor at my school he said it looks better in a transcript to have a bad start freshman year and do a lot better in the next years. And also that they dont really care for freshman and sophmore years. Is this true?</p>

<p>If i did get a 27 instead of a 20 on the ACT they would interegate me about it and make me take it over again thinking that i cheated somehow. My goal is to get a 24-25 and even that will have them make me take it over again.</p>

<p>If i do get rejected, could i apply again the year after when i get my final transcript from all 4 years and retake the ACT senior year if i get a bad score?</p>

<p>well, if they see an improvement since your freshman year, there is no reason for them to "interogate" you for getting a 27. there are plenty of people who have low gpa's for a broad spectrum of reasons but that doesn't mean they're equally "stupid" or whatever regarding testing scores- many end up with 30's, etc. if you try hard to get a high score on the act, im sure it'll be consistent with your claimed improvement. i forget but there is indeed a minimum number of foreign language credits you need. assyrian (if it's your first language/native), isn't offered in schools (or i haven't heard of any). there is no AP assyrian. foreign language credits are usually like japanese, italian, french, spanish.</p>

<p>question about foreign language requirements</p>

<p>I have been admitted to UIUC for the pro pilot program. I read that 4 years are required for business. I want to transfer to finance my junior year. Will they know that I don't have the 4 years of foreign language when i apply to business, or is that only for getting admitted as a freshman?</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>Admission to UIUC as a freshman requires only 2 years of high school language. The rule you are thinking about relates to whether you have to take language once you are at UIUC. You are required to have four semesters of college level language to graduate from the business school. If you had 4 years of language in high school that college requirement is waived. And no, the business school won't overlook whether you have met the college level language requirement; in fact, it expects you to have that requirement completed as a condition to be able to transfer into the school junior year.</p>

<p>k thanks. looks like its back to spanish for me :)</p>

<p>I saw some colleges that require 2 years of foriegn language or 2 years of fine arts. Does the same apply at UIUC? Because i already took 1.5 years so i would only need to fit in one more semester in my schedule.</p>

<p>And also.. this doesnt relate to UIUC but are their any other good 4 year universities that have a good architecting program? Ive asked a lot of teachers and my counselor but they all just say UIUC.</p>

<p>Fine arts is not a replacement for the language requirement at UIUC. I am not all that familiar with architect programs elsewhere but know they exist in Illinois at Illinois Institute of Technology, Columbia College in Chicago, University of Illinois Chicago (which, however, has the same 2 year language requirement as UIUC), Southern Illinois University Carbondale (which has a 2 year requirement that can be met by language, fine arts, or vocational courses).</p>