<p>The PSAT "person" at D's school retired. No one even knows where the reports actually are at this point, never mind when they will be returned.</p>
<p>Frustrating on so many levels. Not the least of which is that she's too young to drive and hubby and I have to schedule the test prep, which is more complicated than one would like since he works two jobs and my work-week is more than 60 hours. Ours is the only school that hasn't given the scores back and the classes are filling. But, hey, no one else cares so why should I, right? (We'd also have liked to have registered for a couple of college visits over Regents week in January, but that is looking less likely also.)</p>
<p>Yup. Not for love or money until Dec. 22nd here. School refuses to give out the info for any reason. When I told the GC's office that the scores had been released online and we wanted to get the access code, she asked "where did you get THAT info?" and I read it to her off the CB website and from what others had posted here. I suspect I was the first, but not the last parent they'll hear from, and that as soon as they hung up with me, Official Panic Ensued. ;)</p>
<p>Well, so sorry to hear that some schools still won't release the scores. Our school finally released this past Wednesday. How about this for a story? My S will be commended, but won't be a semi-finalist. No big deal, right? After he took the PSAT's, he came out to my car, and as we started to drive home he started to tell me about problems with the test administration. On Section 2, the first math section, the proctor called "time's up," at about the 20 minute mark. When my son pointed out they were allowed 25 minutes for the section, it turned out that the proctor used her CELL PHONE to start timing the section, and the classroom clock to finish! She said, "OK, who needs more time?" She was going to allow anyone who wanted to go on to the next section! My son stopped her and she gave them a few more minutes. When it came to Section 5, the Writing Section, she wrote the start and stop time for the section on the board. When my son looked up and made a quick calculation, he realized that she was only allowing 25 minutes for the section, whereas that section allows 30 minutes. He pointed this out to her (this was in the middle of the testing) and she changed the time. He was very distracted and thrown by this confusion on both sections.</p>
<p>I immediately turned around and went back to school with him and we reported this to the test site administrator. Apparently, she filed the appropriate "discrepancy" paperwork with ETS, but of course nothing came of it, nor did I expect it to. Well, what a surprise when he received his scores this week. On section 5, the Writing Section, he got 36 out of 38 correct, omitting two which he had intended to go back and finish, had the section been correctly timed. On the Math section 2, out of the last four questions, he omitted 2 and got one incorrect. On Section 4 of the math section (correctly timed), he got all the questions correct.</p>
<p>It's pretty frustrating to know that my original instinct was correct. This was a kid who had a strong likelihood to be a semi-finalist and because of a proctor's ineptitude, he only missed by two questions.</p>
<p>momof3 ~ my son had a similar situation with the teacher administering the test last year but fortunately it was a class of sophmores and didn't really impact anything. I'm so sorry to hear that your son may have missed his chance at NMF because of the test administration.</p>
<p>It seems that normally they mail the reports to the schools, but I guess it's up to them how long to hold them. As a home schooling student D1 took it at a local high school, and we received the official report, ostensibly straight from the Collegeboard NMSC people last Tuesday (Dec. 7th), and then today we received the actual test booklet from the school (a private school). The same was true for a friend who took it at a public high school that same week. I don't see why they can't just mail the score to the home (or at least a copy) at the same time for everyone. They do for the SAT.
Anybody know past cutoffs for New Mexico? I think she is on the cusp with 217.</p>
<p>momof3sons, I am so sorry your S had to go through such a horrible testing experience. I would call the Collegeboard if I were you.
I was worried about the bad testing environment my S would probably encounter at school, from past experience with my D, and when S took the test as a soph. The HS puts everyone in the cafeteria and since the test is in the morning, they get to hear all the noise from the kitchen getting ready for lunch -- voices, pots and pans, etc., as well as extremely loud bells going off about seven times during the test.<br>
This year before the test I called the collegeboard to ask what I could do about this situation. I spoke at length with a helpful woman, who made an official report about the call under S's name. So if I called back with a complaint after the test, there would already be a record of my concerns.</p>
<p>As it was, we did not call back following the test. S said the bells were distracting and deafening (a very quiet room -- that day -- that is usually packed with hundreds of shouting and talking teens, so the bells are turned up to the max.) but the cooking/kitchen noises were kept to a reasonable level. He said it was ok, except for jumping whenever the bell rang... But we knew that if we opened the can of worms any further, things could get very ugly. The collegeboard said if conditions are very poor they can negate all the students' scores from our HS that day. Can you imagine the nightmare that would cause? So... what can you do? It's frustrating.......</p>
<p>Mommusic ... in response to your response several pages ago ... my S attends a public high school. He is SUPPOSED to meet with his counselor every year to go over his schedule. She simply does not meet with her students ... at least not with any S knows. She may have her pets, I don't know, but she doesn't meet with anyone he has talked to. The kids in his classes have complained. I spoke to the principal about this, but his response was that I should set up a meeting with her, my son, and me. Yeah, like my 16 year old wants that. She will be useless at recommendation time. Fortunately, S has some great teachers who know him and can comment. My D attended a different high school, and her counselor was okay ... she did meet with D once a year & she did a nice job on her recs. I am well versed in all of this, and we can work around the gc problem. But it still bugs the heck out of me that she is too busy with ... well, I don't know what ... to meet face to face with the students she is assigned. I recently met some area high school counselors who actually brought up S's school in conversation (not knowing my S went to school there), discussing some things they had heard about the lack of actual counseling by that school's counseling staff. I about fell out of my chair! </p>
<p>Still no PSAT here, and I don't imagine it will arrive anytime soon. The whole CB website thing is another thing to make me mad now! I can see S's scores from last year, but it won't let me see this year's scores. I need to find something more relaxing to think about now ...</p>
<p>oh, you think those testing conditions are bad? The central office of our school district allowed a Pop Warner cheerleading competition to be scheduled at our high school the day of PSAT's. There were little girls ALL AROUND the high school building, screaming, running, yelling and practicing cheers. Some of them were practicing right outside the windows where testing was going on.</p>
<p>Several people complained afterward to the principal. She is frustrated as well, trying to get a new person at the central office to understand the "sensitive nature" of scheduling use of the high school.</p>
<p>At least it wasn't the SAT. My D has no expectation of NMSF, so the PSAT was purely practice for her.</p>
<p>My DS has an "account" already on the CB site from taking the test in 2006 and 2007. Does he still need the access code from the paper score sheet to get the 2008 scores or will he be able to get them without it? I will hound the GC if I must....but it would be nice to save that "hounding" for a future time!! :)</p>
<p>You must have the access code from the 2008 PSAT (which is only available from the school when they give out scores) even if your student has an account already on CB. Stinks, big time.</p>
<p>Yes, to my disappointment, you must have the access code from 2008 PSAT to access your scores. I just checked CB and the 2008 test is now listed but you are unable to access without the code. So, for those schools that do not distribute scores until late December or January, students will not be able to access scores on CB until they have their scores with the access code. Very disappointing.</p>
<p>Hey everybody,
I just got my son's PSAT without an access code. He had registered with Quick Start a couple of weeks ago so when I logged in and it asked for the access code (which I don't have yet) I noticed in small print it says "Ask your school for it or log it without it" and when I clicked there I filled in our address and high school code (didn't have SSN) and up popped the scores! Try it... I was surprised!</p>
<p>Lafalum84, that's an incredible story. I can't imagine how they could let that happen. And here I thought our schools were the only incompetent ones.....
I am sure the collegeboard would have a hay day with your story. I don't suppose anything can be done now, but those testing conditions are atrocious and should not be allowed. All students should be on a level playing field that day.</p>