<p>Does anyone know when the College will post the incoming class statistics for 2013? I thought that the information was updated when the new essay questions. Of course, this isn't true. </p>
<p>I heard/suspect that the this 2013 class is more involved in extra curricular activities and that the 75th percentile ACT score is unchanged (33) but the 25th percentile ACT score is up a point to 29. </p>
<p>What are your thoughts? And what have you heard about the update?</p>
<p>Nothing. I’ve been waiting too, to see if the trends are really true. Last year, there was a jump from 28% to 37% of students with SATs of 1500+, but there was also a jump of students with lower SATs. Zimmer trying to spread out the student body, maybe?</p>
<p>I also want to see if the % in top 10% of HS class went to 89 (since it had jumped from 80 to 83 to 86 in the past 3 years).</p>
<p>I question the value of a data point like % of students with SAT scores over 1500. Could that just be a sign that the University is enrolling wealthier students? Where I went to high school, (New York City), it was not unusual for students to shell out top dollar for SAT tutors and a 1500 was not uncommon. </p>
<p>Class rank is also a faulty factor. Look at the percentage of schools that report class rank-- and know that a lot of the best college prep schools don’t rank their students to avoid making their non-top-10 students look bad.</p>
<p>Unalove, you’re right about a lot of private school’s doing that… I think. At my school (small, private, day school, ~100 students per graduating class) the College Counseling office claims that they don’t rank, but of course they do. They just don’t publish a rank to the students and don’t send ranks to school unless it is an absolutely integral part of the application. If not, tough luck for the school. But they do it for that exact reason, because the top 10%ers are just so ridiculously difficult to beat, that kids like me (who range about the 15th percentile) would get screwed in the admissions process. And that certainly wouldn’t suit the top 35% of the kids at my school because most of us are getting 98th and 99th percentiles on the standardized tests.
But I can’t wait for the 2013 stuff to come out. I was looking at the 2012 data and on the geographical data it says that 5% of students come from the Southwest. Do you know what the admissions office defines the Southwest as? I’m in Texas which is occasionally the south, or the southwest, etc., so if I’m in the Southwest, that might help with admissions :).</p>
<p>I’d really be more interested in the demographics data than the test scores and GPAs. Schools like UChicago need not have the goal of raising their 75th percentile SAT above 1500. What they do need to do is attract more applicants from all over the place to give the school a better reputation. I know they release in-state and out-of-state statistics, but do they give more detailed information about the geographic distribution?</p>
<p>…If I ever find my way into the admissions office as an intern, I’m going to suggest a map…</p>
<p>
They used to have such a map in their viewbook. I’m not sure if they still do. The new numbers are probably different, but these are the most recent I have, sorted alphabetically and by number. </p>
<p>
Alabama 1
Alaska 1
Arizona 5<br>
Arkansas 1
California 75<br>
Colorado 20
Connecticut 31<br>
DC 11
Delaware 1
Florida 43<br>
Georgia 6<br>
Hawaii 4<br>
Idaho 2
Illinois 223<br>
Indiana 27<br>
Iowa 15
Kansas 6
Kentucky 3<br>
Louisiana 6
Maine 3
Maryland 16
Massachusetts 61<br>
Michigan 27
Minnesota 30<br>
Mississippi 0
Missouri 16
Montana 2<br>
Nebraska 8<br>
Nevada 2
New Hampshire 17<br>
New Jersey 34
New Mexico 9<br>
New York 109
North Carolina 11<br>
North Dakota 0
Ohio 37
Oklahoma 8
Oregon 9<br>
Pennsylvania 35
Rhode Island 2<br>
South Carolina 3
South Dakota 0<br>
Tennessee 12<br>
Texas 52
Utah 3
Vermont 5<br>
Virginia 15
Washington 17<br>
West Virginia 0
Wisconsin 21<br>
Wyoming 1
Illinois 223
New York 109
California 75
Massachusetts 61<br>
Texas 52
Florida 43
Ohio 37
Pennsylvania 35
New Jersey 34
Connecticut 31
Minnesota 30<br>
Indiana 27
Michigan 27
Wisconsin 21
Colorado 20
New Hampshire 17
Washington 17
Maryland 16
Missouri 16
Iowa 15
Virginia 15
Tennessee 12
DC 11
North Carolina 11<br>
New Mexico 9<br>
Oregon 9
Nebraska 8
Oklahoma 8
Georgia 6<br>
Kansas 6
Louisiana 6
Arizona 5
Vermont 5
Hawaii 4
Kentucky 3<br>
Maine 3
South Carolina 3<br>
Utah 3
Idaho 2
Montana 2<br>
Nevada 2<br>
Rhode Island 2
Alabama 1
Alaska 1
Arkansas 1
Delaware 1
Wyoming 1
Mississippi 0
North Dakota 0
South Dakota 0<br>
West Virginia 0
</p>
<p>I’m a little bit confused as to where the numbers above come from. I also question the value of going by state… we know which states are going to be the big contributors, and what we don’t know is that the one student from Alabama’s parents teach classics at Bama (if such were the case, it would confirm Chicago’s academic reputation rather than its regional reputation).</p>
<p>
As I said earlier, Chicago published its numbers in the Life of the Mind viewbook.</p>
<p>Browsing the online version, it seems to have replaced that map with a geographic breakdown by region.</p>
<p>The map is a much better way to demonstrate it. That way one doesn’t get confused with awkward population adjustments.</p>
<p>So, to avoid starting a new thread, I will resurrect this one since no one really gave a answer to the OPs question. I have the exact same question, and frankly, I WANT TO KNOW! Haha. Any ideas about when this thing will come out?</p>
<p>Yeah I hate resurrecting old threads… but I’m dying to know.</p>
<p>Guize, </p>
<p>Some admissions person visited my school the other day. I got a sweet new hyper glossy informational guide about the school. Nestled between all the vibrant pictures is something of interest to us:
Statistics for the class of 2013. I don’t have the packet with me right now, but the 25th percentile score was a 30 and the 75th was a 34. Yikes, eh?
There was only a bit more information, and I’ll post it tomorrow when I get at the packet.</p>
<p>Ouch. Any SAT information?</p>
<p><a href=“https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/admissions/classprofile.shtml[/url]”>https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/admissions/classprofile.shtml</a></p>
<p>Uhhhh… huh.</p>
<p>27% acceptance rate/36% yield?</p>
<p>are they going to release any statement on the number of EA applications they received?</p>
<p>The number of EA applications received should be coming out soon. As of today, the only high-profile schools that have released their early numbers are Dartmouth, Stanford, and Yale. Chicago usually releases its numbers in mid-late November, and has been as late as early December before.</p>
<p>It has been rumored that early applications at some elite colleges are down this year and I speculate that some universities will refrain from breaking the news for a while. (Of course, Chicago is thought to be up, but it might not be as high as we’ve been led to expect.)</p>
<p>The class of 2013 acceptance rate has been known since last spring, and the yield is basically in the range where yield has been for the past 5 years or so. The only news there is that it’s near the top of the range, and they were probably expecting some fall off due to the economy.</p>
<p>It’s kind of interesting that the ACT middle-50 spread bumped up a point from where it had been the past two years (from 28-33 to 29-34), but the SAT middle-50 spread seems to be widening slightly. Five years ago, it was 1380-1500; this year it is 1320-1530, and the trend to get wider has been consistent year-to-year over that period. I’m not certain what that means, though I guess maybe it indicates more holistic consideration of non-academic factors. (And/or perhaps more international students with lower CR scores.) In any event, it serves as a caution to those who overestimate the importance of SATs in Chicago admissions.</p>
<p>I interpreted the ACT bump and the SAT widening, along with the unanticipated gender gap, to be caused by more of an emphasis on math than in previous years. ACT stresses scientific reasoning more than the SAT, and males are known to score higher in math.</p>
<p>I don’t know if it’s more of an emphasis on math or just that the extra yield seems to have come disproportionately from men. The increase in the percentage of men, as well as the increase in the percentage of internationals (who are also known to score better on math than critical reasoning), may explain why the SAT spread widened this year, but they don’t explain why this is the fifth year in a row in which the SAT spread has widened (and the ACT spread hasn’t – another puzzlement!).</p>
<p>For comparison, I looked at Yale and Northwestern. Yale’s SAT spread was pretty wide, but much higher absolute numbers (1400-1580); it’s ACT spread was 30-34, not much different than Chicago. Northwestern’s SAT spread was narrower (1360-1530), and so was its ACT spread (30-33).</p>