2013 Single Choice Early Action applicants thread

ParentOfIvyHope · October 1, 2008, 3:01pm

This is a thread to post stats of the CCers who are going to apply early to Yale. Copy the following and add the information before posting. It will come handy while posting for the results thread too.

Stats:
• SAT: CR: , M: , W:
• SAT II: Math II C: , Chemistry: , Physics: , Biology:
• ACT: 
• GPA: UW: , W:
• Rank:
• Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB): AP/IB [5]:

Subjective
• Essays:
• Teacher Recs:
• Counselor Rec:
• Supplement Information (Y/N):
• Interview:
• Hook (recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize):

Personal
• Location:
• High School Type:
• Ethnicity:
• Gender:
• Applied for Financial Aid:

Other
• Extracurricular:
• Awards:

eating_food · October 1, 2008, 5:13pm

This format is probably better to use. Remember to remove the spaces in between the brackets!

[ b]Objective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT I (breakdown):
[ *] ACT:
[ *] SAT II:
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis):
[ *] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[ *] Senior Year Course Load:
[ *] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
[ *] Job/Work Experience:
[ *] Volunteer/Community service:
[ *] Summer Activities:
[ *] Essays:
[ *] Teacher Recommendation:
[ *] Counselor Rec:
[ *] Additional Rec:
[ *] Interview:
[ /list][ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *] State (if domestic applicant):
[ *] Country (if international applicant):
[ *] School Type:
[ *] Ethnicity:
[ *] Gender:
[ *] Income Bracket:
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):
[ /list][ b]Reflection[ /b][ list]
[ *] Strengths:
[ *] Weaknesses:
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
[ /list][ b]General Comments:[ /b] Good Luck!!

eating_food · October 1, 2008, 5:33pm

Anyway, I’m going to do this because threads like this helped me out SIGNIFICANTLY throughout high school. I think it’s our duty as CCers to do for the youngins what was done for us… :)

Objective:[ul]
[li]SAT I (breakdown): (taking on saturday)[/li]
[li]SAT II: Literature (750), Biology-M (740), World History (760)[/li]
[li]** Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):** 3.95[/li]
[li]Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top 10%[/li]
[li]** AP (place score in parenthesis)**: Biology (5), Environmental Science (4), Government (5), Human Geo (self-study 5), Psychology (self-study 5), English Language (5), World History (5), Calculus AB (5)[/li]
[li]Senior Year Course Load: Differential Equations, AP Calc BC/Multivariable, AP Lit, AP Music Theory, Band, Musical Theatre, Research[/li]
[li]Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit Semi-Finalist, National AP Scholar[/li]
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]

[li]Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): County Wide Student Government (secretary), FBLA (state officer), Junior State of America (Founder/President - winner of national chapter of the month); Young Democrats Club (Founder/President); Piano (lessons/chamber music at the Johns Hopkins Peabody Institute); Band (top ensemble, flute); Drama (lots of plays/musicals, good roles); Baltimore Cappies Critics Teams (write reviews on high school plays); Ecology Club; Dancing![/li]
[li]Job/Work Experience: Year long internship at a satellite company in the Federal Communications Commission regulatory department; Founder/President of my own tutoring service; office assisstant at my dad’s company[/li]
[li]Volunteer/Community service: Student member of county environmental sustainability board; secretary for a student run organization that gives presentations to parents on how to more effectively communicate with their kids; Appointed to the board of education 2009-2010 Calendar revision committee; Member of newly formed Maryland Youth Advisary Commission; Organized 2 year long project to get kids more involved in community service and the different leadership opportunities in my county; Students for Barack Obama (volunteer!)[/li]
[li]Summer Activities: Presitigious music camp focused on piano performance (2008), Summer@Brown - Philosophy Course (2007)[/li]
[li]** Essays:** I think they’re goody![/li]
[li]Teacher Recommendations: One from my JSA advisor/Govt teacher; another from my biology teacher[/li]
[li]Counselor Rec: He told me that it’s the best he’s ever written. We’re really close actually :)[/li]
[list]Other
[li]State (if domestic applicant): Maryland[/li][li]School Type: Competitive Public[/li][li]Ethnicity: Black[/li][li]Gender: Male[/li][li]Income Bracket: Middle Class[/li][li]Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM and Legacy (at Yale as well as Penn)[/ul][/li]
Strengths: Minority Status + really good test scores for a black male, legacy, good writer, leadership, but also different because I’m really strong in the arts (which is my passion)
Weaknesses: My class rank is so bad. Even though I’ve taken the most APs in my grade, I’m ranked 29/330. Yeah it’s top 10%, but it’s still like icky… :(. Also my SAT has the potential to be bad. I have yet to take it, but I hope I do well (I got a 222 on the PSAT).

Wheewwwwww yayayaa! I wanna go to yalie so baddy :(

eating_food · October 1, 2008, 5:42pm

^ P.S. I phail at HTML :(

princessbell · October 2, 2008, 11:47pm

^^^omg you are like my male twin…scary.

Chlormel · October 3, 2008, 9:25am

I’d love to put up my stats but you’d probably think I’m crazy even bothering to apply.

ironmetal250 · October 3, 2008, 3:57pm

Stats:
• SAT: CR: 670 , M: 720 , W: 720
• SAT II: Math II: 750, Chemistry: 780 , Ecological Biology: 750
• ACT: Didn’t Take
• GPA: UW: 3.95000 , W: 4.69000
• Rank: County doesn’t rank (In top 1% of my class of 352, if I had to estimate)
• Other Tests (AMC, AP, IB): AP - [5: Chem, Calc AB, English Lang, World, Environmental Science]; [4: U.S. Government]; [Not yet taken: Calc BC, Bio, Literature]
• Senior Courses: AP Literature, AP Bio, AP Calc BC, NIH Internship

Subjective
• Essays: Good to Great (One about my first time crabbing, another about helping my family deal with domestic violence or my speech impediment (I still can’t decide))
• Teacher Recs: Outstanding (One from math teacher for both precalculus and calc AB, one from AP chem teacher who’s also NHS sponsor)
• Counselor Rec: Outstanding (also very close to my counselor)
• Supplement Information (Y/N): Yes, scientific abstract
• Interview: Not sure if I’ll get one.
• Hook (recruited athlete, legacy, Nobel Prize): Did research (my own personal research project) at the NIH in what’s considered one of the premier science education programs in the country. Concerns Apoptotic CD4 T-Cells and HIV if you must know. Also I’m building my own boat.

Personal
• Location: Maryland, Montgomery County
• High School Type: Public
• Ethnicity: Greek
• Gender: Male
• Income Bracket: Not really sure what I qualify as, my parents just got separated and my mother (whom I live with) is unemployed… I guess lowest?
• Applied for Financial Aid: Yes

Other
• Extracurricular: President of NHS, Student Academy of Science (10-12), Mathematics League (9-10), Environmental Club (10), Karen Noonan Environmental Education Program, Montgomery County Teen Court Juror (11), Helped SGA with art and posters (9, 10), Building a 12’ fishing boat (from four sheets of plywood), Worked for two years at the local diner as a busboy, Research internship at the NIH… sponsored by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute… one of 23 students to get the internship… competition for the entire county by the way, Member of Immunology interest group at the NIH, Attended Wednesday Afternoon Lecture Series at the NIH (and met a Yale med school professor who was presenting), Seminar on Toxicology at George Washington University, 115 hours of community service, Attended F. Scott Fitzgerald Literary Conference for creative writing (one of two students in my school).

• Awards: National Merit Commended Scholar, Rensselaer medalist, AP Scholar with Distinction, Maryland Distinguished Scholar Honorable Mention

AP930 · October 3, 2008, 10:19pm

[ b]Objective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT I (breakdown): CR: 800, M: 790, W: 730, 11
[ *] SAT II: Chem: 790, USHist: 750, Math IIC: 790
[ *] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[ *] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 1/400
[ *] AP (place score in parenthesis): Chem (5), USHist (5)
[ *] Senior Year Course Load: AP Calculus BC, AP English, AP Biology, Economics, Government, AP Psychology, Honors Spanish IV
[ *] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Commended Scholar
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): National Honor Society (President), Cultural Understanding Club, Monthly Harvest (Founder), Church Band (Pianist), Knowledge Bowl (Captain), Youth Accountability Group (Founder, Leader)
[ *] Job/Work Experience: None
[ *] Volunteer/Community service: Library Work, Church Work, Club Work
[ *] Summer Activities: Governor School (Sciences)
[ *] Essays: They were unique, whether they were well-written or whether Yale will like them, I can’t say
[ *] Teacher Recommendation: One teacher was simply glowing, I think they other one will be great
[ *] Counselor Rec: Good
[ *] Additional Rec: We’ll see if I send one
[ *] Interview: Yes, had one in the summer
[ /list][ b]Other[ /b][ list]
[ *] State (if domestic applicant): TN
[ *] School Type: Public (large)
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] Income Bracket: +$100,000
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None
[ /list][ b]Reflection[ /b][ list]
[ *] Strengths: Well-balanced I guess
[ *] Weaknesses: Chinese, Unfocused, No major awards
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected:
[ /list][ b]General Comments:[ /b] Well, best of luck to all of us Yalie hopefuls!

Vicky_sky · October 4, 2008, 5:15pm

princessbell and eating food make me feel so inadequate…:(

b]Objective:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): 2110 (720 Cr, 660 M, 730 W)
[] ACT: N/A
[] SAT II: Will take USH, Spanish, and Lit in Nov
[] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.828
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2/350
[] AP: 5’s in USH, Eng, and World History; 4’s in Bio, Spanish
[] IB: Spanish B SL (7 out of 7)
[] Senior Year Course Load: IB Biology HL, AP Chemistry, IB Eng 12 HL, 20th Century Topics HL, Philosophy SL, Math SL, and AP Spanish Literature
[] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Achievement Semi-Finalist, AP Scholar with Distinction, West Point Leadership Award, County Student of the Year
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Service Club (President); Spanish Club (Vice-President); Academic Bowl; Forensics/Debate (3rd place regionals); National Honor Society, Junior Class Council; (my EC’s are very generic but I love them all!)
[] Job/Work Experience: McDonald’s (15-20 hours per week)
[] Volunteer/Community service: hospital (300+ hours); mentoring elementary school kids since 9th grade
[] Summer Activities: governor’s school, leadership seminars, summer school
[] Essays: mildy interesting to totally outrageous
[] Teacher Recommendation: awesome; my teachers love me!
[] Counselor Rec: great!
[] Additional Rec:
[] Interview: N/A
[/ul]Other[ul]
[] State (if domestic applicant): VA
[] Country (if international applicant):
[] School Type: public, urban; only a few ppl go to top schools (like 6 every year, if you count UVA instate)
[] Ethnicity: African American
[] Gender: Female
[] Income Bracket: $28,000ish
[] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM, 1st generation, very low income family (5 children)
[/ul]Reflection[list]
[] Strengths: course load, rank, grades (to some extent b/c my junior yr screwed things up), well rounded (all though that may not be a good thing)
[li] Weaknesses: SAT’s, my EC’s are all over the place and very generic; it doesn’t look like I have a passion but I do…[/li]
I really hope I get in to Yale EA. I’ve busted my a in a school that is looked down upon by others in my district.

southeasttitan · October 4, 2008, 5:53pm

Objective:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): 620 M, 780 CR, 780 W (2180)
[] SAT II: Spanish 750, Literature 780
[] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.99
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 4/480
[] AP (place score in parenthesis): US History (5), Spanish (4, self-study)
[] Senior Year Course Load: AP Human Geography, AP Calculus AB, Spanish 309 and Philosophy 115 and Macalester College, Newspaper Production
[li] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): 2008 Davidson Fellow for Literature, 2008 Scholastic Art and Writing National Silver Award, 2005 National History Day Champion, National Merit Semifinalist[/li]
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Newspaper (Editor-in-Chief), Club Soccer (Captain), 3 years Varsity Soccer, Loft Literary Center TeenInk Advisory Board
[] Volunteer/Community service: Head Start Literacy Program Volunteer/Translator (350 hours), Ten Thousand Things Theater (100 hours), Hermano Pedro Day School (90 hours)
[] Summer Activities: Full-time volunteer for Head Start, soccer captain
[] Essays: Writing’s my forte & I’ve won awards for it, so they’ll be one of the strongest parts of my app
[] Teacher Recommendation: I think they’ll both say I’m among their best students ever: one English teacher (& newspaper adviser), one Spanish teacher
[] Counselor Rec: She’s only been working for 2 years, so I’ll def. be “top in my career,” lol
[] Additional Rec: Nah.
[] Interview: I don’t even know how to schedule this
[/ul]Other [ul]
[] State (if domestic applicant): MN
[] School Type: Large decent public, inner-city
[] Ethnicity: White
[] Gender: F
[] Income Bracket: >$60,000
[] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Davidson Fellow? Probably nothing. I’m lower middle class & from the inner city, I guess.
[/ul]Reflection[list]
[] Strengths: Awards definitely, and essays
[] Weaknesses: That godd@mn effing math score. Also, not very many APs, but my school only offers 6.

you_llsee · October 4, 2008, 6:01pm

Objective:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): 720 CR 710 M 740 Wr (But retaking on Nov. 1st!)
[] ACT:
[] SAT II: 730 Us History (took math II and Lit today…failed lit :))
[] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 1/326
[] AP (place score in parenthesis): UsHist(5) UsGov’t(5) Stats(5) Chem(5)
[] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[] Senior Year Course Load: AP Eng Lit, AP Calc., AP Bio, AP French, AP Psych, Jazz Band
[] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Nat’l Merit/Achievement Semi, AP Scholar w/ Honor, United States Nat’l Brain Bee Championship (1st place Regional, thus Finalist for Nationals)
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): NHS(president), Student Council(president), Hi-Q Team(captain), Marching/concert/jazz Band (1st chair/lead alto sax/soloist), Science Olympiad Team, Tutor both elementary and High School students in Math, English, and Science
[] Job/Work Experience:
[] Volunteer/Community service: Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, Annual Martin Luther King Day of Service, Northeast Philadelphia Homeless Shelter
[] Summer Activities: Carnegie Mellon’s AP/EA Summer Program (A’s in both Calc. I and Cognitive Psych).
[] Essays:will be great!
[] Teacher Recommendation: good…but aren’t they all?
[] Counselor Rec: ditto

[/ul]Other[ul]
[] State (if domestic applicant): PA
[] Country (if international applicant):
[] School Type: Public
[] Ethnicity: African American
[] Gender: Male
[] Income Bracket: Around 60,000
[] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): urm
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[] Strengths: gpa, class rank, ap scores. Good stats despite the fact that my school is very bad.
[li] Weaknesses: Sat (could be a little higher for the EA round…we’ll see how it goes), EC’s are generic (but all that’s offered @ my school)[/li][/ul]General Comments: Will probably be deferred

be_somebody · October 4, 2008, 6:38pm

Objective:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): 770 CR, 700 M, 730 W, 10 Essay (2300)
[] ACT: N/A
[] SAT II: Maths IIC and Literature (Don’t know the results yet…)
[] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.91
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 4?/70. Top 5~10% for sure.
[] AP (place score in parenthesis): AP Calc. AB (5), AP Eng Lang (5)
[] IB (place score in parenthesis):
[] Senior Year Course Load: AP Eng Lit, AP Bio, AP Calc. BC (Self study), AP Music Theory (Self study), U.S. History, Spanish IV, Concert Band, Jazz Band, Senior Directed Project
[] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Uh… only school-based ones. Honor Roll with Distinction (4 years), 1st place in U.S. Maths Exam (2 years), Best Student in a few subjects.
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Fall musical/spring play (stage manager, student director, music director), NHS, Piano, Varsity XC, Church orchestra, Knowledge Masters Open, Big Brother/Big Sister, Produced/directed/edited a new reality show for Senior Project
[] Job/Work Experience: Tutoring elementary kids for a year
[] Volunteer/Community service: Habitat for Humanity (50 hours)
[] Summer Activities: Nebraska Thespian Festival
[] Essays: I’ve been told I’m a good writer, so hopefully they’re good.
[] Teacher Recommendation: Waived rights, but great.
[] Counselor Rec: Waived rights, but great.
[] Additional Rec: Drama teacher who I worked with for 2 years on school productions
[] Interview: N/A
[/ul]Other[ul]
[] State (if domestic applicant):
[] Country (if international applicant): U.A.E.
[] School Type: Small Private
[] Ethnicity: Asian
[] Gender: Male
[] Income Bracket: ~$100,000
[] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None.
[/ul][ b]Reflection**[ul]
[] Strengths: Decent SAT scores. Somewhat focused ECs (theatre and music). Rare location?
[] Weaknesses: Lack of major hooks, awards, and AP courses.
[/ul]General Comments: Holy crap haha. Seeing the other applicants here, my chances look a lot dimmer than before. Hopefully, they’ll need a techie in the class of '13 *crosses fingers

Expecting to be deferred then rejected :(

wink · October 4, 2008, 6:48pm

Objective:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): N/A (November)
[] ACT: 34
[] SAT II: N/A (October)
[] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.94 UW
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 1/500+
[] AP (place score in parenthesis): Government (4), Biology (5), APUSH (5), Calculus AB (5), English Lang. (5), English Lit. (5), Psychology (5), World History (5)
[] IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
[] Senior Year Course Load: Calc II, AP Spanish, Physics (H), 2 honors lit courses, one honors social science
[] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AP Scholar (of some kind), NMSF, (some minor awards - essay contests, etc.)
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Science Olympiad (captain), Model UN (VP, president), Quiz Bowl (captain), NHS, worship/temple activities, creative writing (may send supplement)
[] Job/Work Experience: N/A
[] Volunteer/Community service: ~300 hours, hospital, library volunteer, Spanish and history tutor
[] Summer Activities: summer school, 6 week internship at Mich. State U.
[] Essays: Feeling confident
[] Teacher Recommendation: Strong
[] Counselor Rec: OK - she doesn’t know me that well
[] Additional Rec: none
[] Interview: N/A
[/ul]Other[ul]
[] State (if domestic applicant): MI
[] Country (if international applicant): N/A
[] School Type: Large public
[] Ethnicity: unmarked
[] Gender: Female
[] Income Bracket: ~$70,000
[] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[] Strengths: Essays, rank
[li] Weaknesses: Generic ECs[/li][/ul]General Comments: Feeling inadequate at the moment.

princessbell · October 4, 2008, 8:09pm

haha vicky believe me…I am NO ONE to make you feel inadequate. In real life, I’m much closer to the outspoken school-skipping slacker than the standout student…stats have nothing to do with who you really are.

grc061390 · October 4, 2008, 8:12pm

WHO’S FEELING BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES?!

the title of this thread should be re-named: 2013 Single Choice Early Action Applicants: If you think you’re qualified, think again!

princessbell · October 4, 2008, 8:25pm

I’m not feeling badly at all. I believe 100% in the holistic admissions process. Yale will reject me because I suck individually, not because everyone else is so awesome.

Objective:[ul]
[] SAT I (breakdown): 800 CR/770 M/770 W
[] ACT: Yeah, right…after the SAT?
[] SAT II: 780 Biology-M, 740 Literature
[] Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): A sucky 3.7
[] Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top 5% out of 650+ (I was confused too :))
[] AP (place score in parenthesis): Biology (5) World History (4) English Lang (5) Chemistry (4)
[] IB (place score in parenthesis): None at my school.
[] Senior Year Course Load: AP Lit, AP Calc BC, Organic Biochem, Newspaper, Internship at NIH
[] Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Told you I was a loser!
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[] Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Editor-in-chief of school newspaper, lots more stuff, but nothing maters as much as that. I love writing, I love our paper, I love my staff.
[] Job/Work Experience: Lifeguard! Tutor!
[] Volunteer/Community service: Children’s Hospital Volunteer, starting a program (hopefully) to mentor young girls as they enter middle/high school.
[] Summer Activities: Summer @ Brown 2007- Public Speaking, lots and lots of Shakespeare and lifeguarding and recombitant DNA and mouse brains and lots of stuff!
[] Essays: Common App about my experiences with English/writing, supplemental about running with my dad…maybe. I think they’re good.
[] Teacher Recommendation: 1 hopefully awesome, 1 sucks, 1 extra to hopefully override the sucky one.
[] Counselor Rec: Uh, regurgitated crap about me…
[] Additional Rec: See above. And maybe, just maybe one from my internship mentor.
[] Interview: None yet…haven’t sent my app in yet.
[/ul]Other[ul]
[] State (if domestic applicant): Maryland!
[] Country (if international applicant):
[] School Type: Public, not well known outside of the county/DC area. Everyone remotely smart goes to UMD. End of story.
[] Ethnicity: African-American.
[] Gender: FEMALE!
[] Income Bracket: We’re rich. No just kidding, but I won’t get very much financial aid. Upper middle-class in our county.
[] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): I don’t really like calling URM a hook, but if you insist. And my dad went to Yale Med School.
[/ul]Reflection[ul]
[] Strengths: I’m vivacious.
[] Weaknesses: Vivacious in real life usually reads more like sporadic/crazy. And that kind of attitude shows on my…intresting transcripts.
[] Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I haven’t been…yet. lol
[/ul]General Comments: Just doing this to show everyone how horrible my application must look to Yale adcoms and how strangely similar my life is to that of eating food’s.

valentinocuevas · October 4, 2008, 8:31pm

i agree with the statement above.
way to bring my high down. shiiiit.

Cato91 · October 4, 2008, 9:16pm

Haha I don’t want to post my stats because they’d probably give away my identity.

I guess that’s a good thing, though, if they’re that unique…

you_llsee · October 4, 2008, 9:23pm

haha…you two are quite similar (ef and pb).

weird. I guess Maryland is the place to be, eh?

southeasttitan · October 4, 2008, 10:35pm

Cato91: I already revealed myself :P. It’s not so bad, luckily I’ve said nothing incriminating on here. LOL.

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