<p>If Spanish, US History, and MathII add up to 2350, is that good enough for Harvard? What do you guys think the mean is for 3 subject tests?</p>
<p>Guys, please ignore him. Just walk away.</p>
<p>That’s more than enough. The mean is probably around 100 points less, and anyway a lot of people only take 2 subject tests.</p>
<p>Power4good: Don’t be facetious. The average test scores at Harvard are extremely high. Subject tests are considerably easier to score higher on than SAT/ACT. I don’t think you comprehend how hard it is to get into Harvard. </p>
<p>If I were asking this for schools like Cornell, that would even be a big difference. </p>
<p>Bobtheboy: My school only offered one AP, so I guess I may be in a slightly different situation than other students here.</p>
<p>@wizkid
I’m pretty sure that statement is only true on a case-by-case basis, man. My SAT Subject Test average was 2360, but my Reasoning Test average was 2290 (not superscored). I don’t think that is such a huge margin as to merit any kind of generalization on the difficulty of either test; sure, I didn’t get to play to my strengths on the SAT Reasoning Test, but it didn’t end up too far from the Subject Test average. Plus, the ‘difficulty’ would vary from subject test to subject test; you can’t just lay a blanket statement over the challenge posed by all subject tests.</p>
<p>Power4good is correct, so there was no need to be rude to him; instead, this thread is casting much more doubt in my faith in your ability to be admitted than any missing 50–or 150–points on the SAT ever could.</p>
<p>Agent: I guess I am just speaking based on my own experience. I’ll remember not to ask a question in the Harvard section. I’m expected to know everything already. </p>
<p>Exultationsy: If I said a 2350 considering my circumstances would that make you feel better? Clearly I asked for the mean of 3 subject tests at Harvard. So my initial question was introducing my second question. Would you agree that there is a very good chance someone with 2350 in subject tests is rejected? If so, then why do you dismiss a question asking whether or not that would be good enough? Then you attempt to question my intelligence.</p>
<p>For the record, not all of us knows exactly what Harvard wants. I don’t know the average subject test scores for any of these schools. Why would I not assume that Harvard’s average scores would be nearly perfect since it is the hardest school to get into? If you have nothing relevant to say, then ignore me by not commenting.</p>
<p>It’s good enough, no worries. Seems like everyone’s in a cranky mood here-- EA results coming out soon? :p</p>
<p>To me, good enough means I will likely get in. Maybe the phrase “good enough” is misleading. Maybe likely getting in is an impossibility. That would account for the confusion.</p>
<p>The mean probably isn’t much about 2200–maybe 2250. The thing about “good enough” and whether you’ll “probably get in” based on those is that I think SAT IIs are probably the least important part of the application–less than recs, less than essays, less than transcript, less than course difficulty, less than rank, maybe even less than APs, if you submit those. So yes, there is a very good chance that a given person with a 2350 set of SAT IIs be rejected, because, unlike winning a national award or a truly glowing set of recommendations, they won’t ever speak compellingly enough for you to make an adcom forgive any other flaws in your application. (Same for the SAT I.) They’re nice to have, but that’s all.</p>
<p>^^wiz, I hope you’re not confusing “good enough scores” with your likelihood of getting in. Scores are only a small (though essential) portion of the whole entire admissions process, and even perfect scores in everything can’t guarantee a likelihood of acceptance. After a certain point, other factors beyond your control come into play on whether or not you’ll be accepted. Relax, have some fun, and you’ll find out when you get your decisions.</p>
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<p>Mmm, I don’t know about that.</p>
<p>Thank you for the intelligent responses.</p>
<p>@xrCalico</p>
<p>What other mandatory portions of the application do you think might be less important? It’s hard to ask that question on the internet without sounding defensive, but I’m just curious–I’m quite willing to be wrong on this one. (Also, this is past a certain point. 400-400-400 would probably do more to sink your chances than not having any ECs.)</p>
<p>Everything’s relative in importance since every applicant’s situation is different. Not all high schools offer an equal access to AP courses, and even when they do, the offered courses vary greatly in quality and difficulty. Similarly, rank is only meaningful to some extent, and not all applicants have the same access to extracurriculars. </p>
<p>Students from some high schools may have perfect GPAs but barely scrap a mid-600 on their SAT subject tests or barely pass their APs, in which case the standardized tests are more indicative of their actual skill levels. Or, it may be the very opposite case for kids coming from competitive high schools known for tough grading. SATIIs is a way to put academic performance within context.</p>
<p>You seeking validation so desperately is disgusting.</p>
<p>Really? Not a very supportive crowd.</p>
<p>I read somewhere in CC that a Harvard admission officer says SAT 2 scores will be taken more seriously these years since everyone seems to crack SAT 1 successfully by studying it from the 9th grade. If you take a lot of SAT 2 and have great scores, then it is definitely a boost to your profile. But now I can’t remember the source, so I can’t quote it verbatim here. </p>
<p>2350 is awesome, but admission may not be all about scores. I mean, someone who has a 2400 may be rejected, while someone with 21xx may be accepted (I know a Harvard freshman from my country who has a 21xx - I am an international student) – my point is, other things may matter as well.</p>
<p>2350 should be fine. There’s no such thing as “will likely get you in” as far as testing goes, since they reject about three quarters of the applicants with 2400 SAT Is and presumably the same percentage of those with perfect SAT IIs.</p>
<p>Personally, I submitted a 1580/1600 (790, 790) for SAT IIs, electing not to send my 2320/2400 (790, 790, 740) SAT II portfolio. I think a 2320 overall would be ok too, but I wasn’t comfortable sending anything less than a 750 for any section or subject on standardized testing.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>sent in 780 780 800 as well as a slew of lower scores for the lolz.</p>
<p>How much boost would 3200 (4x 800s) give?</p>