<p>My kids' urban public high school is really pushing dual enrollment classes that are taught in the high school, by adjunct community college instructors.</p>
<p>One-third of the courses are going to be held only once a week - for 3 hours long on a Friday afternoon. Does anyone think this will work????</p>
<p>The remaining dual enrollment classes are going to be held only twice a week, for 1.5 hours each. </p>
<p>The dual enrollment classes will last half of the school year. They are keeping their extensive AP classes, so the dual enrollment is aimed for students who are a step below AP. The dual enrollment classes will include many 11th graders, in addition to 12th grade students.</p>
<p>Don’t understand your question. Will what “work”? </p>
<p>The logistics? The fact that the course only meets once per week? The impact on undergrad admissions? The transferability of dual enrollment courses? </p>
<p>Need more info. What subjects, for example. What level (College Algebra or Calculus)?</p>
<p>btw: since AP is supposed to be somewhat equal to a college course, why should dual enrollment be viewed less by the HS?</p>
<p>Wish we had had this opportunity. While AP classes are great, sometimes a student has a bad day on test day, or is just not a good tester, and fails to get the right score on the AP test to get credit for the class. Now, their grade for the AP class may be excellent, but the college doesn’t recognize that in accepting credit, only the AP test score.</p>
<p>I’m not too familiar with dual enrollment. My son got credit for a college course he took in the summer as part of an enrichment program. The credits and grades transferred over. It didn’t fulfill a requirement for his degree, but it’s listed as an elective on his transcript and the grade is calculated into his overall GPA.</p>
<p>If taking say a calculus class or a Freshman English Comp class as part of dual enrollment would guarantee that you would get credit for that class and fulfill a requirement for your degree, I would go for it.</p>
<p>For instance, my son took AP English both junior and senior year in high school. He did very well in the class, but could only get a 3 on both AP tests. Since he needed a 4 on either test to get a full year of Freshman English Comp, which is required for most majors, he had to take one semester of Freshman English Comp. He had friends who got low Bs, even Cs, in the class, but when they took the AP test, they got the needed 4. So they got to skip Freshman English Comp for the whole year. </p>
<p>If his English AP course had been a dual enrollment, perhaps he would have gotten English Comp credit and his good grade in the class would have been figured into his GPA? I don’t know if that’s how dual enrollment works. If it is, it would be in a student’s benefit to take such a course. Especially a course that is required for every major nowadays, like English Comp, but is not a prerequisite for further courses in their major down the road.</p>
<p>Son has an overall GPA, and he has his college’s GPA listed on his transcript. They are two different numbers.</p>
<p>Since son’s course was taken alone at a college during the summer, it is listed as a course with a grade from that college, I guess similar to what a transfer student would bring in to a new college.</p>
<p>Since dual enrollment involves both a high school and a college, I was wondering if the grade itself would transfer, or would the student only get credit for taking the course, similar to how it works with AP and CLEP credit.</p>
<p>Shouldn’t community college courses be above AP?</p>
<p>For example, there is no point in offering a dual enrollment math course below AP Calculus BC if all of the math courses up to and including AP Calculus BC are offered at the high school. But if the school has some math superstars who complete AP Calculus BC as juniors or even earlier, then offering multivariable calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, and calculus-based statistics through dual enrollment would be useful.</p>
<p>Including grades from other colleges and universities in GPA is a policy that varies by school.</p>
<p>However, if the student has any intention of applying to medical school, s/he should note that all college and university courses and grades must be listed and are used, including dual enrollment and community college courses taken while in high school.</p>
<p>It can work if students want it to. I can understand how it is much easier to get the instructors for those time frames. This might mean only students truly interested in the courses will take them and those students will be motivated.</p>
<p>The main question was: will high school students be able to learn everything they need to learn in one THREE hour long class? </p>
<p>In particular, will they be able to pay attention that long on a Friday afternoon. </p>
<p>Everyone I talk to has the same reaction: it won’t work. High school students have short attention spans to start with. </p>
<p>If the full 3 hours are not productive, there is no other time during the week to make it up, because the adjunct instructor won’t be around.</p>
<p>In college, I never had a 3 hour long lecture class. In my work, I find that meetings that last more than 2 hours lose the attention of most adults.</p>
<p>In regards to these dual enrollment classes being considered below AP, it is because of the system of granting credit. In my state, the public colleges will give credit for AP and dual enrollment. The private selective colleges will NOT give credit to a dual enrollment class taken in a high school. </p>
<p>In a perfect world, dual enrollment and AP would be blended together into the same class, and give students two different ways of earning the credit. However, that is apparently not allowed.</p>
<p>Most of the grad school classes I took were 3 hours/1x a week. I actually preferred this format because I felt we accomplished more in less time. There was more continuity to the lectures and less time “summing up” what we covered last class…</p>