<p>The following public colleges and universities all require 4 years of math. Pre-calculus or statistics is accepted as the 4th year at all of these institutions to the best of my knowledge. (Source – individual college websites):</p>
<p>Arizona State University<br>
Augusta State University<br>
Coastal Carolina University<br>
College of Charleston<br>
East Carolina University<br>
Florida Atlantic University<br>
Florida International University<br>
Florida Gulf Coast University<br>
Florida State University<br>
Georgia Southern University<br>
Georgia Tech<br>
James Madison University<br>
New College of Florida<br>
North Carolina Central University<br>
North Carolina State<br>
Purdue University<br>
Texas Tech<br>
University of Arkansas<br>
University of Central Florida<br>
University of Colorado<br>
University of Florida<br>
University of Georgia<br>
University of Missouri<br>
University of Nebraska<br>
University of North Carolina<br>
University of North Carolina Ashville<br>
University of North Carolina Charlotte<br>
University of North Carolina Greensboro
University of South Carolina<br>
University of South Florida<br>
University of Texas<br>
University of Virginia<br>
University of West Florida<br>
Winston-Salem State University</p>
<p>After completing precalculus, taking AP statistics as a senior is likely worth her while anyway, since knowledge of statistics is helpful in understanding how many things work (and can help avoid being deceived by statistics). AP statistics is not generally considered a difficult course, as it is equivalent in many colleges to a semester-long introductory statistics course for those with only a high school math background.</p>
<p>Agreed^^^ if she isn’t going to pursue a major in the areas that involves math like business/econ/engineering or science related but rather social sciences and humanities don’t take calculus. I would suggest APSTAT because most likely you will have to take it in college and it’s not as intense as calculus. If not take regular stats and you’ll have a grasp on the subject before you take it in college. =D.</p>
<p>If she wants to go into the Natural Sciences or Engineering, then she will have to begin Calculus in her first year in college, which means that she will have to have Pre-Calculus in high school. If she is going into the social sciences, humanities, or fine arts then the she will only have need Algebra II, and possibly Statistics (depending on her major). </p>
<p>I am an undergraduate, and from my experience, one of the first things that she will do is to take a math placement exam at the college. The exam tests students on Algebreic and Geometric concepts. She will place into College Algebra (like Algebra II), Pre-Calculus, Statistics, or Calculus I. </p>
<p>In general, taking a fourth year of math in high school or even a computer science class, will make her more competative to universities. University admissions consider many things though. Her general academic performance, her interests, her admissions essays, her extracurriculars, her SAT/ACT scores, and her readiness for her major, if she knows. If not, it’s okay, she can enter as undeclared and take her general undergraduate courses until junior year, except for Engineering and a few select majors. Look into the schools where she would like to do to see their specific admissions requirements.</p>
<p>Algebra II and precalculus are remedial courses from a college point of view, so it is best if the student has completed them in high school in order to avoid wasting expensive college schedule space on them should they be needed for some other course (e.g. statistics) or for a quantitative reasoning graduation requirement.</p>
<p>But I thought colleges placed you based on your score on the test regardless of if you’ve taken the course in high school. A person can take calculus in high school, pass, and still be placed in precalc in college.</p>
<p>True, but if the student has not had precalculus in high school at all, s/he won’t have the knowledge to have any chance of placing higher than remedial precalculus in college. A student who has completed precalculus in high school would likely place out of the remedial courses, if s/he learned the material in a properly taught high school course. If the high school’s quality of instruction was of poor quality, then the scenario of being placed into a lower level course than what one completed in high school is a possibility.</p>
<p>I think this depends a lot on what you mean by remedial. At most colleges and universities that I’m aware of, college algebra, precalculus and the like can be counted toward graduation, and they usually satisfy the school’s math requirement if it has one. They just can’t be counted toward STEM majors.</p>
<p>Would it be nice not to have to take such a class in college? To be able to satisfy the college’s math or quantitative reasoning requirement with high school classes, and use these credits for something else? Sure. But the world isn’t perfect, and if I’ve read this thread correctly, we’re talking about a girl who has a lot of fine qualities, but being an outstanding math student isn’t really one of them. That being the case, if she were my daughter, I’d focus on getting her through high school and into college, and I’d worry about the college stuff in a year or two.</p>
<p>A very long time ago, one of the contributing factors to my own college decision was that the place I selected had no math requirement - you could take logic instead - whereas the other places I was admitted both required calculus. While the logic course turned out to be the single most valuable course I ever took, anywhere, I’ve lived to regret never having studied calculus - not because it’s something I’ve ever needed in my professional career, but because IMO it’s something every educated person should be conversant with, at least at a basic level.</p>
<p>I took Calculus in high school, and was still required to take the SAT II: Math exam for placement (I was placed into Calculus 408- Differential and Integral Calculus).</p>
<p>I’m a senior and I took AP Calc AB last year and BC this year. Please don’t try to get her to take AP Calc. I love math, so I had a really easy time in Calc and got a 5, but I know people who got A’s in PreCal and still struggled in Calc, making a B or so and getting only 2’s or 3’s, so for someone who really isn’t great at math… No chance. I’d say if stat is offered (even AP stat isn’t much math, a lot more writing from what I’ve heard) take that senior year, otherwise I’d just not take another math. Maybe an online stat class?</p>