32 Killed at Virgina Tech

<p>This is horrible, 32 students at VT were shot to death by a gunman, This really shows how bad security is at colleges. If this can happen in Rural Virgina, this can happen anywhere :(</p>

<p>yeah the sad things is that here was a 2 HOUR GAP between the shootings...
my prayers go out to the students and the professors and their families :(</p>

<p>Scary. Does anyone on CC go to Virginia Tech? I hope they're well.</p>

<p>When was this??</p>

<p>I pray that somehow, there is some good that is going to come out of this.</p>

<p>Colsen, all morning.</p>

<p>watching it on the news right now.</p>

<p>this is CRAZY!! and horrible.</p>

<p><em>GASP</em> that's so scary... I hope they catch that murderer!!!</p>

<p>the gunman shot himself.
oh yeah VT has horrible security.
plus.
the shooting was around 9
and was underinvestigation by the campus security
however, they STILL advised students to go to class
in which the second shooting HAPPENED IN class
wow.
there's obviously gonna be lawsuits flying everywhere now.</p>

<p>Kai, you not only have the facts incorrect, but you are insulting to the people suffering through this right now. Almost every word in your post is incorrect. At least get the facts straight before blaming a mourning community.</p>

<p>Virginia Tech President Charles Steger said authorities believed that the shooting at the dorm was a domestic dispute and mistakenly thought the gunman had fled the campus.</p>

<p>"We had no reason to suspect any other incident was going to occur," he said.</p>

<p>Many said the first word they received from the university was an e-mail more than two hours into the rampage ? around the time the gunman struck again.</p>

<p>What happened today, this was ridiculous," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "While they send out that e-mail, 20 more people got killed</p>

<p>The e-mail had few details. It read: "A shooting incident occurred at West Amber Johnston earlier this morning. Police are on the scene and are investigating." The message warned students to be cautious and contact police about anything suspicious.</p>

<p>I also feel terrible for the lost of those on campus. But you have to realize that a huge part is due to the college's mistake of still having class in session. </p>

<p>And I'm sorry. The first shooting started at 7;15. The email was at 9;26.</p>

<p>Actually Kai's post is pretty accurate.</p>

<p>Um, so they should have stayed in the dorms? Students who lived on campus had two choices: stay in the dorms or go to class. The only shooting had occured in the dorms.</p>

<p>Unless you had some way of knowing the gunman was going to strike in an academic building, you should have made the same call. If classes weren't in session, and another shooting occured in the dorms... what would you be saying? </p>

<p>If you use the logic of having fault for having classes, then logically it was a lose-lose situation for the college. The shootings one of two places (generally speaking, academic or dorm) and most students in one of two places (again, generally speaking). It so happens that the shooting took place where the students were (or does it so happen? Did it occur to anyone that if the uni had called classes off the shooting could have been in another dorm?) Because either way it was handled, it could have happened. But it happened as it did. At 7.15 this morning a group of people was called on to make a decision. They had a 50% general chance of telling the students to be in the location of either the next shooting or the safe location. They followed logic (the shooting had been in a dorm) and allowed the students to stay in the classrooms or go to them.</p>

<p>If you, Kai, had made the decision to keep the students in the dorm, what on earth makes you think that the gunman wouldn't have struck there again?</p>

<p>And Sweet, Kai got a statement about Tech's security (arguably) wrong, the time of the shooting wrong, who was investigating wrong, and the statement that students were advised to go to class wrong (which she admitted herself when she said the e-mail advising them was sent out after the classes started) in a post that barely said more than that. Perhaps it's only here near the shootings that we consider that inaccurate and insulting.</p>

<p>The fact of the matter is that today a man walked onto the campus of a huge university with the intent and purpose to take an enormous number of lives. He had in his plans way to lock the students into the buildings, ways to get into the dorm, ways to hide between shootings, ways to get the most number of students killed. We have no way now of knowing and we never will have a way of knowing how many students would have been killed if other action had been taken, which means for all we know VT saved hundreds of lives by clearing the dorms, which have much fewer escape routes and closer quarters. Because we have no way of knowing what else would have happened but for all we know this madman would have killed dozens others, we have no foundation on which to blame the school.</p>

<p>Carpe, you are understandably very upset. I am not trying to argue with you. When I read Kai's post I thought he/she was talking about the second shooting which was just after 9.</p>

<p>I just wanted to give my support to all those affected by this tradegy. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.</p>

<p>My sister is a freshmen there. She's fine though. She said everyone there is so freaked out.</p>