4-year University vs. Community College

<p>Why should I go to a 4 year University when I can save a ton of money, taking the same classes at a CC, and have those credits transfer over?</p>

<p>Let me know, because i'm being forced to go to a CC until I can convince my parents otherwise. And i've tried the "college experience" thing, and was laughed at.</p>

<p>Washtenaw Community College?</p>

<p>washtenaw community college pwnz all.</p>

<p>i don't call it "resorting" to a community college. yeesh, they're not that bad, people. i'm thinking about "resorting" to one.</p>

<p>but anyway, here are reasons its easier to just go straight into a 4 yr:</p>

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<li><p>not all community college credits will transfer over - umich especially is kinda picky about it. </p></li>
<li><p>if you go to a community college, you will have to go through all the effort of applying to 4 yrs all over again.</p></li>
<li><p>you went through all the trouble of getting good grades in HS and getting good on the ACT, spent time and money applying to colleges... why not make use of it?</p></li>
<li><p>you can get a scholarship for the 4 yr college... also, if you got good on your MEAPS, there's $2500 already. there's also federal aid and reasonably priced state colleges.</p></li>
<li><p>you can compromise: you can still go to a 4 yr and take some classes at a community college, i've heard of people who take their math credits (smaller classes and cheaper) at community colleges and have them transferred to the 4 year they go to.</p></li>
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<p>some of my friends dual enrolled at WCC and they absolutely hated it there. (for example two of my friends are taking a music theory class at washtenaw and are considered 'advanced' because they can read music.)</p>

<p>i dual enrolled, along with three of my friends (we needed a fourth english credit). it wasn't so bad. this one guy in my class was from california, and apparently he came all the way to washtenaw because they're known for their great medical program... yeah, we were all kinda like.... okay?
but as far as community colleges go, it's one of the better ones.</p>

<p>Yes, WCC, although I think i'm going to be able to compromise and go there over the summer, getting some credits there, and transferring them. If I don't get into UM, they want me to go there. Or State.</p>

<p>UM--Dearborn as a compromise?? Easy commute from A2, cost savings by living at home, few if any credit transfer problems, many academic programs through Colleges of LS & A, Engineering/Computer Science, Management, Education, and UM satellite campus best transfer option into Ann Arbor? Most importantly.......</p>

<p>Q--As a UM–Dearborn student, am I eligible to buy tickets for Michigan football and other Ann Arbor sporting events?
A--UM–Dearborn students may purchase tickets through the Michigan Ticket Office. Information about ticket availability is available on the Ticket Office website or by calling the Michigan Ticket Office, 734-764-0247.</p>

<p>Dearborn is 45 minutes from my house, not really an easy commute compared to WCC, 10 minutes away. Also i'd be going to Washtenaw for free.</p>

<p>When husband was a UM undergrad, lived on campus during summers and drove to Dearborn everyday for work. Not bad--only about 1/2 hour or so. UM-Dearborn v. WCC really isn't an apples-to-apples comparison. How are you able to attend WCC for free? It would be better if it weren't...that sure doesn't help in making your case with the folks.</p>

<p>Check out a new initiative announced today involving U of M and other top schools..."Elite Colleges Focus on Community Colleges"... </p>

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<p>I commute the 45 minutes to UM Dearborn - it's really not that long. It's one step closer to your ultimate goal, so don't delay.</p>

<p>I know some students who did this, and were fine. Umich has course equivalencies worked out with WCC so you'll know well ahead of time what will transfer and what won't.</p>

<p>One thing I'd worry about for the average student is a risk to their aspirations. Research has found that when students attend school with students with lower aspirations (and at community college, there would be more of these), it can tend to depress their own hopes and plans. Now, you seem really driven and goal-oriented to me, so I'm less worried for you than I might be some students. </p>

<p>But still, who will be your peer group? What will you do for social life? I'd worry about you finding a group of like-minded pals to keep you sane the next few years. Will you have the kind of "college life" you expect at WCC? Maybe WCC is pretty good in this area, maybe not. But it's something I'd look into.</p>

<p>A2Wolves6, WCC and Univ of Michigan have had a long-standing program in which students are admitted to WCC with the agreement ahead of time that they will transfer to the main campus at U of M in the junior year. I met one young woman (a single mom who plans to go to law school) who did this and was very successful. You should definitely call admissions both at UM AA and WCC to ask about this program that already exists. Also, you should take a long hard look at EMU and Oakland University, both excellent schools within a short drive to you and from which you could easily transfer to U of M. Would your parents consider these schools? I know you're disappointed about your deferral at U of M, but it is not the only school in these parts. Also, what have you done to reverse your deferral at U of M? More letters of recommendation? Sent in an updated award list? Submitted supplemental materials? A letter of extreme interest?</p>

<p>If your parents really can only afford your going the CC route, that's one thing. But there are many advantages of going to a four year school from the start. Freshman year is when a lot of bonding goes on. Many of the friendships will be for life. Many connections are made that will follow you through the business or legal or medical fields, and of course others. </p>

<p>It's hard to make the same relationships coming in as a junior. Frats and sororities have been joined, many will be living off campus at many schools...you get the idea. The college experience isn't just about parties. Both the Clinton and Bush administrations were/are filled with people each went to Yale with.</p>

<p>LOL, there was an article in the Ann Arbor News today about UM wanting more CC transfers from the CCs in Michigan, it was at my place at the table when I came home from school. I wonder who put it there... (parents). WCC would be free for me because they wrote me a letter saying students with my scores get free rides, and on their website I think it states that students with ACT's higher than like 25 can test out of certain classes and get credits, as well as have their tuition entirely paid for.</p>

<p>I think this social argument would definitely work. Building up friendships freshman years, having these friendships lead to oppurtunities, such as living in apartments, etc. I'm going to try that.</p>

<p>I wrote a letter to UM saying i'd attend if accepted. Wasn't too fond of the idea until the weather warmed up a bit though. But I realize it's pretty much stupid for anyone in Michigan who got in there not to go there, with the value the school gives. I also submitted another rec, another EC list, etc. It just stinks this waiting time. I'm going insane almost, and worried about a rejection, and that my options aren't open, because of parents who have one vision, and a kid who has another.</p>

<p>^^ LOL, i saw that article when i came home, and i thought of this thread.</p>

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I think i'm going to be able to compromise and go there over the summer, getting some credits there, and transferring them.

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<p>I was gonna do that, but I asked umich if you could transfer them and they said it'd change my admissions status and that they'd highly reccomend i "start in the fall with your cohorts" ... which i found weird. i don't know if that's right or not... the people at EMU said it was fine...</p>

<p>Is UM the only four year you'd go to?</p>

<p>No, i'd go to any of the other 7 colleges I applied to. But my parents wouldn't want me to go there.</p>

<p>=/ good luck convincing them...</p>