<p>Ok so I'm sending 3 extra papers that come to about 45 pages. I'm pretty resolute on sending these since the local reviewer said he'll send it to the respective departments. Here's the question though: should I print on back and front pages so it will be cut down to about 25 pages (for psychological purposes)?</p>
<p>bumpity bump</p>
<p>These are research papers? I'd say send them in with a summary attached. Also, shorten it to 25 pages. AND, cut out any fat. This will be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>There is no fat lol. With the fat the original draft of a paper is near 30 pages, and then it's cut to 20. This isn't like research on Georgia O'Keefe btw, this is original scientific research. And yes, there are abstracts.</p>
<p>bah, you're from RSI, send w/e the hell you feel like sending. i would attatch a little note tho - 'btw, i'm from rsi and i'm sweet, so read and study these pages' just so they kno ur from RSI and ur sweet</p>
<p>hahhaaha thanks but it's not that easy to get into harvard even after rsi</p>
<p>It might make more sense to just send in abstracts along with something about whatever amazing distinctions your paper has won. Professional scientists generally don't both to read in depth papers by their colleagues, unless they are intimately related to their field of study. Keep in mind that no matter how justifiably impressed you are with your work it probably won't seem that astonishing to a Harvard professor. </p>
<p>Also - 25 pages? Articles in Nature or Science are hardly ever that long! Can't you at the minimum trim out the five pages of detailed charts you probably have?</p>
<p>Noo, that's 3 papers that come to 45. I decided to send all of it as it is. It's double spaced and graphs are big. And I probably won't send "something about whatever I've won" since they hoepfully know what siemens westinghouse and RSI are...</p>
<p>Is it completely out of the question to send only one extra paper? Or at the most, two? Three might be a bit much . . .</p>
<p>personally, I don't think you should send in a research paper at all...just send in an abstract...by submitting a research paper, you not only get on their nerves but you force them to have it read by a department...if the department says the <em>slightest</em> negative thing about your paper, they might misunderstand and get p*issed off...if, as you're claiming, you've won a bunch of competitions, the fact that you've won them + the abstracts should be good enough to prove you're an excellent researcher...</p>
<p>in my honest opinion...sending 45 pages when you can send 3 and convey the same (if not better) message is a <em>HUGE</em> mistake</p>
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<p>There might be some truth to this. In Georetown admissions, when an applicant submits a writing sample, the department uses it to look for reasons to reject him or her. </p>
<p>I know this might not apply to Harvard, but I would not be surprised if this were, indeed, the case.</p>
<p>My son only sent his abstract and a cover letter explaining that his paper was accepted with revisions for publication and that he'd entered it into Intel and Siemens. It never occurred to us to send the whole paper.</p>
<p>maybe its just me, but do you expect the admissions committee to sit and read 45 extra pages of one application when they have 20,000 applications to look at?
just send the abstract.</p>
<p>"maybe its just me, but do you expect the admissions committee to sit and read 45 extra pages of one application when they have 20,000 applications to look at?"</p>
<p>That's a valid question; but you have to remember that it isn't the admissions office that reads research papers, looks at art slides, listens to recordings, or reads submitted short stories. The admissions office forwards these things to the respective departments.</p>
<p>The adcom for our region came and talked to us and he sounded very open to extra materials. The only thing Im'worried about is that the department looks for one small reason to reject....</p>
<p>Why don't you contact profs from the department and ask them which they'd prefer to see? If, as I suspect, they say they want abstracts, then you'll know.</p>
<p>Well I'll definitely have abstracts in there, but how would I contact profs? How do I know which profs read admissions papers? I could call harvard undergrad and ask them what they think...</p>
<p>Isn't it better to have more than less? The profs will read less if they want to or have only a little bit of time.
The only problem is if they would actually "look" for something wrong with it. I don't know if there is anything significant that would keep me OUT just because of some small error on the papers though, since two of them have won siemens awards and one is on it's way to publication.</p>
<p>45 pages...i think its way to long</p>
<p>but they only have to read the abstracts and can read more if theyre interested</p>
<p>yeah, I think i'm gonna go with "more is better" and send it all.</p>