<p>As many of you know, I am pretty obsessed with track and running. I wrote to the Princeton coach, who responded by saying my times were too slow to be recruited (which I was expecting. :)) I also, however, wrote to the Harvard coach, who showed a significant amount of interest. To make a long story short, I am being recruited there and will apply to Harvard SCEA.</p>
<p>Now, before Byerly swoops in here to gloat, all this really means is that Harvard is significantly worse at track than Princeton (no offense to all of the wonderful people who run at Harvard! They do have some really phenomenal runners (like Sunglasses...lol!)... it's just that Princeton has more.) I guess I also just really lucked out, because Harvard just graduated two girls who run my race. Anyway, I am really rather excited about this whole thing. I do love Harvard... it's just that I visited Princeton first and as a result have always shown a fierce loyalty toward it. They are both wonderful schools, and I will always have a place in my heart for Pton :)</p>
<p>Anyway, don't think you've gotten rid of me yet... I will still be posting all over these forums! :) My fellow EDers are all so amazing and talented, and I wish you guys the best of luck in the ED round. I know you'll all be fine... you are all great people and will undoubtedly end up at a school you love (hopefully Princeton ;)). If I don't get into Harvard, you can bet I'll be applying to Princeton RD! Thanks to everyone for answering my questions and offering general help and support, not to mention great conversations about anything and everything off-topic. :p You guys are really the best. :D</p>
<p>Congratulations on being recruited. I hope you get admitted. And despite what many here and elsewhere like to say, Harvard really is a wonderful place to go to college. My daughter is there now. She and her friends just love it. </p>
<p>I'm sure not gloating, because I think Princeton is a great school too, one that I hold in the highest regard. The only time you'll see me trashing Princeton or Yale is perhaps a little good-natured ribbing around the time of the annual football game. I just wish that the legion of Harvard-haters (or for that matter the rabid pro-Harvard partisans) behaved with similar restraint.</p>
<p>Hey, koala, good luck and much swiftness of foot to you. </p>
<p>Although I believe that Harvard and Princeton are the two schools that get bashed the most on CC as a whole, I don't hear a lot of Harvard-bashing on this particular board -- only efforts to counteract the constant prosyletizing here by one particular alumnus.</p>
<p>nah, Cornell is like the little sibling of the ivies. Too much bashing, not enough respect. Penn suffers from middle-child syndrome... itching to be up with HYP but not quite there yet. :p</p>
<p>Thanks, everyone, for the good wishes. Coureur, i'll PM you about my times.</p>
<p>Zephyr, I spend a fair percentage of my time on CC trying to offer current and nuanced information in response to a huge number of posts deriding Princeton's social scene, the vast wealth of the students, etc. Princeton isn't perfect, but I wouldn't call its peer institutions hotbeds of proletarianism.</p>
<p>Oh, of course. I don't like that HYS really offer a less elitist atmosphere. Yale, not Princeton, is the Ivy League with the highest percentage of prep-schoolers. </p>
<p>However, most of the debates recently on the Ivy League forums, some of which I have participated in, seem to be Harvard versus the world. Which is just how a certain Harvard alum likes it.</p>
<p>HYS is just wrong. Stanford is not and never will be with Harvard and Yale and Princeton.</p>
<p>Not because it isn't an institution of equal academic excellence, but simply because it isn't in the northeast, with everything that goes along with it...</p>
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<p>What? You mean the humid summers and freezing winters against a backdrop of toxic chemical plants and rusting steel mills? You're right - California doesn't have all that and probably never will. ;-)</p>
<p>JohnnyK foolishly asserted that Stanford will never be equal to HYP because it isn't in the northeast with "everything that goes with it". I assume that everything means, well, everything. Of the four things I listed, all four are far more plentiful in the northeast than they are in California. </p>
<p>Stanford, or any other school, may or may not be equal to HYP, but if it isn't it won't be because it's not located in the northeast. Like any other geographic area, the northeast has strengths and weaknesses. But there is nothing about the northeast that is required for a school to achieve top status.</p>
<p>Let's not forget the revealed preference rankings that show that Stanford outperforms Princeton, and that Stanford's math and science programs are better than all of HYP's.</p>