<p>And judging by your posts on other boards, you make love to US news rankings. Last time I checked, UM was ranked 24th (PSU is 48th) and UM is the 2nd best Public University along with UVA, while Penn State is 13th.</p>
<p>Obnoxious? I am not the one on here kissing my own ass. The only one on here that has been demeaning is you. You sit on here and degrade the Penn State student body. You are probably some small and skinny underclassman that thinks he is the center of the world. I am sorry that you didn't have any friends and the only human contact you had was on world of warcraft. You are not the only one that did well in school this past year. You are just one of the few that decided to leave. Penn State has a very high retention rate. It's funny how you generalize the whole student body. Your introverted self probably met about 15 people and hates frats because he was the first to get turned away. I know many people in the frats that aren't white, so stop lumping everyone into your small skewed version of reality. Congrats, you got into Michigan. You and over 37,000 other people. It is not like you are going to Northwestern, but rather just another state school. Thankfully, your opinion of who would go to Penn State over Michigan really isn't relevant. You have only been in college a short time and still don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you should wait and actually experience some of Michigan before you start preaching about great it is. </p>
<p>The Usnews is a good way to judge the academic experience. Exactly, Michigan is 24, while Penn State is 47. That is not that large of a gap. Penn State is a top 15 public university. That is not something to be ashamed of. You still are going to a state school and the students at the really selective private schools wont be as impressed with Michigan as you are with yourself.</p>
<p>Also, hate to rain on your parade, but Michigan is really not that hard to get into. The Michigan-Ann Arbor acceptance rate is 62.5%, while Penn State UP is 54%. <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-11-02-collegerates_x.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-11-02-collegerates_x.htm</a> . Sorry.</p>
<p>Schreyers takes an additional 200 kids junior year, not 75. It's also not as easy as having a "1350" and getting in (average SAT1429). There is much more to it. If you plan on staying in the mid east coast Penn State is a major target school for employers as UMich is for midwest companies.</p>
<p>So you're saying that PSU UP is harder to get into than UM Ann Arbor because its acceptance rate is lower? Last time I checked UChicago's acceptance rate was 40%, higher than Lehigh's. </p>
<p>I do not wish to carry this conversation any further because you have just proved how stupid you are. </p>
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<p>I'm talking about SHC transfers, not freshman year admits.</p>
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<p>And if you're trying to make the point that going to PSU is no different than going to UM, then I don't believe you. There's a reason why certain universities are ranked above others, and its not as if PSU is only a few places behind UM. </p>
<p>jec, you can continue kissing PSU's ass for all I care. A perfect example of one of many idiotic people I met there.</p>
<p>you guys are getting nasty...
PSU and UM -Both are good schools. UM has a higher ranking and more prestige. Not sure if the overall environment is drastically different - MN will find out when he goes there.
For a smart, well motivated student, I'm not sure there is a big difference between the schools. But if prestige is viewed as important, and the cost is similar, I would say UM gets the nod. Believe me, down the road, it makes very little difference - except for certain narrow professions like Investment Banking for bulge bracket firms. Not sure why so many are attracted to that sector - big money - no life - lots of jerks. Be careful what you wish for...</p>
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Believe me, down the road, it makes very little difference - except for certain narrow professions like Investment Banking for bulge bracket firms. Not sure why so many are attracted to that sector - big money - no life - lots of jerks. Be careful what you wish for...
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<p>Since I'm an international too, the name makes a big difference, especially if I end up abroad after I graduate.</p>
<p>Schreyers takes 300 freshman and 200 additional juniors each year.</p>
<p>Really? I didn't know. My advisor told me it was 75. She might have been wrong then.</p>
<p>What is the acceptance rate for junior entrance into Schreyers?</p>
<p>I'm not so sure. All I know is that its very competitive to get in.</p>
<p>Currently at Schreyers 1193 students that entered as freshman, 458 current students entered as juniors, 97 entered in some other way.<a href="http://www.scholars.psu.edu/about/2006AnnualReport.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.scholars.psu.edu/about/2006AnnualReport.pdf</a></p>
<p>juniorgate <a href="http://www.scholars.psu.edu/prospectivestudents/juniorgate/index.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.scholars.psu.edu/prospectivestudents/juniorgate/index.html</a></p>
<p>^^That's quite a few.</p>
<p>My advisor told me the cutoff is 3.7 for SHC, for all majors I suppose, since my friend who had a 3.5 as an Electrical Engineering major got rejected. 3.7 in Engineering is really hard compared to a 3.7 in some other major like Business or Liberal Arts.</p>
<p>Like toneranger said, PSU is not renowned for its academics as some top state schools like ucla's, uva, UM, etc. People won't gasp or marvel when you say you go there. Even if you attend the SHC, it is very rarely you get an opportunity to brag about it--most times you will just say you went to PSU at UP. It certainly cannot hurt to have the prestige factor working for you, especially if the school is better.</p>
<p>frasi - I don't know about gasping or marveling for UM - perhaps for Harvard or Yale - but not for most state schools.
But yes, UM has an edge on prestige over PSU.</p>
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frasi - I don't know about gasping or marveling for UM - perhaps for Harvard or Yale - but not for most state schools.
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<p>Yeah, I would only say "WOW" if someone said "I went to Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford/MIT/Chicago/Duke or Penn". Maybe even Berkeley because these schools are really really hard to get into and the fact that someone is admitted speaks a lot about their achievement.</p>
<p>And UVA for out of staters...
That's a "wow" - at least in my book</p>
<p>Yeah that too. I think if you're qualified to get into UVA as an OOS, then you're definately qualified to get into the ivies or one of the other top privates like northwestern and chicago, which is definately a WOW!</p>
<p>a lot of people dont realize how good some publiv school like uva and berkley are unless they are familiar with these colleges so most fo the time you wont get a wow</p>
<p>A lot of people are familiar with schools like Berkeley, UVA and Michigan but because they're public schools they're not as well respected as some of the top privates like Northwestern and Chicago.</p>