A new look at VA Tech?

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<p>Disclaimer: I did not write this. I do not claim this as truth. I simply received this this morning and thought people would be interested or could tell what they know.</p>

<p>This was translated, it was not written by me. And my friend translated it.</p>

<p>The Following are FACTS</p>

<li>In order to shoot 2 to 3 shots with both guns in the hand, accurately, the person must be a professional
(Colombine incident included 2 people,3guns,900 shots=13 deaths)</li>
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<p>CSH(Cho Seung Hee) was never trained in the army
If you have shot a gun before, you would know
it is hard to fire a pistol so accurately, in so quick time</p>

<p>CSH had only bought the guns a month before the shooting. How is it possible for him to shoot so good?</p>

<li><p>Emily, reported to be her girlfriend, is actually not his girlfriend</p></li>
<li><p>Emily was not related with CSH in any way, but he went to her dormitory and shot it up</p></li>
<li><p>CSH’s body had 2 shots in the chest, 1 in the head
There are 3 common ways of suicidal with gun
1)shooting from the side of the head
2)shooting throught your mouth
3)Shooting from under your head</p></li>
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<p>The usual suicidal would have shots in the sideof the head or the face, usually. CSH, however, had a bullet stuck in the back of the head</p>

<p>Most people who were fired at got 3 shots
CSH, also was found with 3 shots in his body</p>

<p>There was once a scientific experiment for the Korean army incident. It explains that it is extremely hard to shoot yourself multiple times after being shot in the chest or the head. Again, CSH had 1 shot in the head, 2 shots in the chest</p>

<p>Why was he shot 3 times, just like the others?
does it make sense that he was shot in such a way?</p>

<li>There was no witness to the sucidal scene
the survivors in the scene had ran out of the classroom(he said the killer’s eyes were not Asian)-this kind of sayings were ignored</li>
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<p>What’s the truth?</p>

<li><p>Nobody saw CSH’s face</p></li>
<li><p>The witness’s say CSH was an asian with a mask on, and was about 6 ft tall and big</p></li>
<li><p>The gun vender described CSH as an Asian. period.
There was no films of CCTV, and no other evidences</p></li>
<li><p>The vender said he had sold 50 bullets to CSH
There were 62 deaths and injuries
There was no one who died was shot less than 3 times
(32 deaths x 3 shots/death…30 injuries x 2 shots/injury…60 extra bullets)</p></li>
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<p>Calculated, CSH must have had more than 200 shots to make this incident true</p>

<li><p>The killer had erased the code on the gun. The reciept for the purchase of the gun was found in the killer’s bag. What’s the possibilities of the killer keeping the receipt for the gun after a month?
If anyone would take effort and time to erase the code on the gun, wouldn’t they be careful enough to get rid of the receipt?(It’s not easy to erase the code. It takes few seconds to get rid of the receipt)</p></li>
<li><p>The witnessess say the killer did not wear, nor carry any bags. CSH, did have a bag</p></li>
<li><p>Obviously, his video he had sent, was not made by himself. Even New York Times pointed this out.</p></li>
<li><p>According to the Police, the gun at the incident was automatic. Watch the videos and hear the sounds. It’s all fired with single shot guns.</p></li>
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<p>Think about it. There are about 10~15 rounds in a pistol, and there were 32 deaths, with 3 shots in each. With both pistols in both hands, it is impossible to reload. Watch the video, it is constantly fired.</p>

<li><p>CSH had no friends at all, according to the student. Before few days of the incident, he was with 3 other Americans. Who were they?</p></li>
<li><p>In the news, CSH had done this for the hate of the rich people. If this is true, he could have simply shot the classrooms. There was no reason for him to go to the dormitories and kill 2 people, who were not in any relations with CSH.</p></li>
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<p>And why did CSH, after the first shootings, make the video and walked around the school to send it, and then go to the 2nd shootings?</p>

<li><p>When CSH’s body was found. His ID was PRESENT, it was there. Why was his identity reported later on?</p></li>
<li><p>The Witness’ sayings are not matching correctly. Some say they have not heard any gunfire in their building, but other say they heard it from that building.</p></li>
<li><p>The photos which were sent to NBC does not match CSH’s face.
Observing the eyebrows, eyes, and the face shape, it is different. Some say it’s because he has his glasses off. Look again, it does not match CSH.</p></li>
<li><p>CSH’s body was found with the 28 dead bodies in the classroom. The only survivor said, the killer had ran away after killing the 28 people, while CSH was found dead with the other dead bodies</p></li>
<li><p>The classroom, dormitory, hallways, school gate, the gunshop.
The films of the CCTV were NOT exposed to the public. WHY?</p></li>
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<p>So What’s wrong with the reports/news?</p>

<p>-CCTV
-2 guns/amature, yet many students died and many were injured as a professional shooter would have done it
-According to the witness, CSH had apparently left the classroom
-CSH was found dead in the classroom
-The gun code was erased
-The receipt for the gun was found in the bag</p>

<p>These are the theories a friend made about this</p>

<p>-CSH had bought the guns for someone else?
-The killer knew CSH did not have a positive social life
-The killer decided to use CSH
-The killer had planned this out to keep himself covered</p>

<p>One last thing,
The timing is not logical</p>

<p>CSH took 2 hours to get to the 2nd shooting after the 1st.
In 2 hours, it is impossible to film, edit the video, get to the post office and have it in the receiver’s inbox.</p>

<p>So the video was made before the incident, with the Killer?</p>

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<p>Conspiracy!</p>

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<p>In a continued pathetic attempt to humanize this murderer, one article on Yahoo News yesterday published Cho's Ebay feedback score: 98.5% positive.</p>

<p>More effort should have been made to listen to the Professors and students who saw the warning signs and made complaints to administration.</p>

<p>Schools are afraid to take action against the crazies because of fear that they'll be sued for violating The Americans With Disabilities Act. Wheelchair ramps to the Science Building entrance-yes. Continuing to enroll a psychopath, no.</p>

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<p>Another one of those theories full of nonsense because people believe whatever "facts" someone else tells them and don't think about obvious flaws in the 'conspiracy theory.' I'm not going to point out all the flaws. Honestly, this theory is not worth the time.</p>

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<p>According to news reports, what you said about where Cho was shot is not correct. According to Fox New:
"Cho died from a gunshot to his temple, Massello said. Even if his brain had been intact, doctors would not have been able to tell whether he had any sort of brain abnormality. Those are usually neurological or chemical disorders that are not detectable during an autopsy, he said."</p>

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<p>The Virginia AG said that he has asked the state police investigating these crimes to leave no stone unturned. He said that while there's nothing to make him think Cho acted with others, he wants to be sure that if anyone helped Cho at any time during the duration of his spree they will find them and determine the context.</p>

<p>He wasn't afraid to rule out that others might be involved, but he seems to think that it's a longshot and if it did occur it would have been as an accessory...and certainly not as a manipulative mastermind that this theory suggests was likely.</p>

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<p>they're saying he bought bullets on ebay, so the fact that he only bought 50 at the store means nothing.</p>

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Another one of those theories full of nonsense because people believe whatever "facts" someone else tells them and don't think about obvious flaws in the 'conspiracy theory.' I'm not going to point out all the flaws. Honestly, this theory is not worth the time.

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<p>Another idiotic post that could've saved space (and my IQ) on the internet. Maybe if you read the first line where it says I did not create this and I am not passing it off as truth. Learn to read, and stop thinking your cool because your post count is bigger than your johnson.</p>

<p>Now that that's handled, though I do think this may be more of a concoction of someone's imagination a few things do face me as strange:</p>

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<li><p>They are right, shooting two 9mm guns reloading with such haste, and shooting accurately takes practice. There are no signs that he was a trained gunman.</p></li>
<li><p>How the hell did he edit a video and package everything, drop it off and have time enough to make it back in two hours? With 23 videos, enconding, transcoding and burning etc would take more than 2 hours on most computers. Maybe he had the video partly done but they say he made the last copy that day. </p></li>
<li><p>It has been confirmed (last I read and checked on wikipedia as well), that the emily girl had no known connection with him. So why did he go out of his way for her?</p></li>
<li><p>Another is the hating the rich people thing. If that was the case why did he just:</p></li>
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<p>a. start shooting random people.
b. Go specifically after emily if it was just out of hatred for people in general.</p>

<p>A few things don't add up here, but I agree it probably is just cuz he was crazy.</p>

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<p>
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Another idiotic post that could've saved space (and my IQ) on the internet. Maybe if you read the first line where it says I did not create this and I am not passing it off as truth. Learn to read, and stop thinking your cool because your post count is bigger than your johnson.

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<p>I read that, where did I say you created it or anything about you? I said it's a stupid theory, where did I imply that it was yours or that you are stupid?</p>

<p>Where did I 'think I was cool' because I have a lot of posts? It's like the Loose Change video... tons of flaws, but I honestly don't think it's worth my personal time to construct an argument and explain why I think so. Perhaps someone else will find it worth their time.</p>

<p>I don't understand why you took so much personal offense to my post. Did I do something to upset you?</p>

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<p>Well its obvious. CSH is the 9/11 mastermind.</p>

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<p>About half of the **** there are lies.</p>

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<h1>16. When CSH's body was found. His ID was PRESENT, it was there. Why was his identity reported later on?</h1>

<p>He wasn't carrying anything. He was identified with fingerprints.</p>

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<h1>11. The witnessess say the killer did not wear, nor carry any bags. CSH, did have a bag</h1>

<p>I haven't read this. Source?</p>

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<h1>12. Obviously, his video he had sent, was not made by himself. Even New York Times pointed this out.</h1>

<p>How is it obvious? Plus, you can see him reach to turn it off.</p>

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<h1>7. The witness's say CSH was an asian with a mask on, and was about 6 ft tall and big</h1>

<p>WTH? How could you tell he was asian if he was wearing a mask?</p>

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<p>Again, I didn't write this so asking me questions does nothing but create more questions.</p>

<p>Goldshadow maybe you didn't mean to be offensive and if not my bad, but why post that this thread isn't worth your time? for all that you might as well have just given your opinion.</p>

<p>Third, this entire list is not all true, apparantly the person who originally wrote it up passed it to someone who added more stuff (I.e. the mask thing), I'm looking for the original but idk where to find it.</p>

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<p>My only question is how was he able to shoot that well? I dislike talking about him because it takes away attention from the victims, humanizes this monster, and creates a breeding ground for copycats. However, I'm still curious. Damn human nature.</p>

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<p>Like it or not, Venkat, he was a human. A heartless one, no doubt, but you can't pretend he wasn't a human. Most anybody can do something like this if their mind goes far enough.</p>

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<p>@ Venkat: He was in a target-rich environment. He didn't show any phenomenal shooting skill. The idea that he was hitting what he was aiming at...and with precision...presumes a lot of insight into what he was aiming at. The ex post facto presumption is that each bullet wound was delivered to the person -- and perhaps even to the part of that person's anatomy -- that he was aiming at. How about he fired into a crowd of people numerous times as they fled towards points of egress? The target area at times was practically the size of a rhino. Ultimately, speaking in terms of accuracy, he just hit lots of people in a crowd or at extremely close range with ammo that was highly lethal. And he was doing it without fear of retaliation or having to take cover himself...which is a big factor for low accuracy in criminal shootings and in combat. What he did was not impressive...even if we're speaking strictly in terms of his handgun accuracy.</p>