<p>I'm looking at Cornell's SAT stats (from collegeboard.com), and it says that the middle 50% of freshman (not sure what year) scored 630 to 730 in verbal and 660-760 in math. Does that necessarily mean that someone who scores well in these ranges is considerably qualified? What would cause someone to not get accepted if they were in this range and had a decent essay, SAT score, ordinary EC's, etc. (aka- nothing out of the ordinary!)? Is the lower of this range mostly from athletes or exceptional people? What's going on here? Sorry if this is an obvious question and I'm just missing it! Thanks!!</p>
<p>keep in mind that a lot of people who had a 630 verbal might have had an 800 in math, and vice versa</p>
<p>Do you know what Cornell's policy with the new Writing section will be?</p>
<p>For the class of 2010, their website says they will accept either the old or new SAT and two SAT II's. It doesn't say whether they will mix and match between old and new tests, though. As for the writing section, I would assume that if you have it, they'll look at it.</p>
<p>Thanks.
By the way, I asked the question (in the first post), because Cornell's acceptance rate is relatively "low" for its SAT range (I think..). Maybe it's because a lot of people apply there? Also, does Cornell have the largest group of undergrads (of all the Ivies) or maybe tied with Penn? How do they compare?</p>
<p>lol... well i almost feel guilty answering all of these cornell questions, because actually princeton is my first choice, but since Cornell is a close second and i just visited a few months ago, i'll do my best. :) Cornell is the biggest ivy by far with an undergraduate enrollment of 13000+ and a total enrollment of 20000+. Cornell is often regarded as the easiest ivy to get into, which might be due in part to its size. However, I think that this reputation is largely false; Cornell is simply looking for people who won't blow them off, which might account for the lower scores. They would rather take someone who has lower scores but a real passion for learning and for Cornell than someone with high scores who puts no effort into the Cornell app and just wants to go to Yale anyway. Example: I knew a girl who was brilliant, prez of a ton of clubs, had some really unique and fantastic ec's, valedictorian of her grade, etc. She got a scholarship to Stanford but was waitlisted at Cornell. Why? Because she just assumed she'd be accepted and didn't bother to put a lot of effort into the app. It was pretty obvious, I'd imagine, that she had no interest in going there or taking advantage of what they had to offer. Cornell can tell who doesn't really give a crap about actually coming there. They are looking for people who want to be there and who want to learn there, instead of sitting there and complaining "damn, i got rejected from yale and now i'm at cornell." Anyway, that's just my theory... if you want something more substantial, i'd check out the Cornell forum. :)</p>
<p>Haha... sounds like the Ivy League that was never meant to be. However, if I ever have a chance (even the slimmest) at any of the Ivies, I know it has to be Cornell. I think the campus is beautiful, and I love its size and what it has to offer. I am on the lower end when it comes to SATs, but I don't think I qualify for even Cornell (sorry if it seems like I'm condescending to Cornell but I'm not, it just sounds that way!). I have a question about what acceptance rate means: Is it the number of applicants that are accepted or is it the number of applicants that are accepted and actually attend? Also, is Cornell "known" to reject applicants that are on the lower end of the SATs (1250 or so) but have shown to work hard in high school?- Basically, do they reject applicants that they know will not apply to other Ivies? Thanks, and I know this is long, sorry!!</p>
<p>Acceptance rate is the number of students who are accepted. Here are the statistics (though these are from two years ago, I think, so they've probably gone down):
Acceptance rate: 29%
Of those accepted, percent that enrolled: 49%
The ED acceptance rate is around 43%.</p>
<p>If you have a 1250, it'll be a long shot. You're probably gonna need some fantastic ec's and amazing essays. If you can, I would try to get it to at least a 1350, and probably a 1400+ if you want to be competitive. I know someone who got in with around a 1250, but she was a recruited athlete, and she would have had a snowball's chance in hell of getting in if she weren't recruited. But if it's your first choice, apply ED: if you show a passion for what you do and make it very clear that cornell is your first choice, it's possible. But try to get those scores up ;)</p>
<p>Check out the Cornell forum for better info... this is just my speculation and i don't pretend to be an expert, lol</p>
<p>Good luck!!! :)</p>