AARGGGGGGG is this what they have turned us into

<p>you know you are crazy when u ask
"Is 800 a good enough score?or should i retake?"
or
"i got an 800 in all the SAT II's and 2400 on the SAT1 so therfore stanford or MIT will accept me."
or
"sorry today is a friday i have a date with my algebra text book. No, i am not free tomorrow, the physics text book has asked me out tomorrow."</p>

<p>Universities should have enough sense to not judge an apllication by what a person scored on one saturday or sunday they should only look at wether you have passed a certain threshold or not thats all. I am an international student and i don't see why people are so hyped about about their SAT's.</p>

<p>1) People overestimate the importance of SAT scores, and 2) people here at CC are overachievers, to a sickening degree at times.</p>

<p>I'd almost recommend that prospective college students not check this site. Once you are in, you realize that you can make the best of whatever you have. Being at that top school doesn't necessarily make or break your future plans (hell, you'll likely have the same kind if not better opportunities at other schools). The hype and pressure which turns it into a stressful few years is perhaps amplified here. Not the entire site mind you, but the WAMC or "Is 2300 good enough?" kind of threads. This site is hardly a representative sample of anything.</p>

<p>forget 2300!!! i saw a post asking "if 2360" was good "enough</p>

<p>Lol, this site motivates me to take high school more seriously and work harder to my goals. When I see other people and the effort they put in it, I feel that the work I'm doing is not overbearing and that I can always strive to be a bit better.</p>

<p>you people are deluding yourselves. even a 2400 can't always get you into ivy league schools (im talking penn, etc., not just HYP). when even a 2400 isn't enough, how can you blame someone for worrying about his/her 2300?</p>

<p>The reason scores are so important because they are not grade-inflated GPA's or subjectively important EC's. They need a "standard" to compare everybody objectively.</p>

<p>Exactly, GPAs differ drastically from school to school. For example, people with 4.4 GPAs at my school score 1800 on the SAT, while 3.5 GPA students at other schools score 2300.</p>

<p>Because the circumstances of every student are different according to their environment, the SAT is needed as a way to compare people on the same scale.</p>

<p>Of course, the SAT is not an ideal standard, but it's kind of a necessary evil.</p>

<p>^^ not necessary true. GPA mite be inflated but i think SATs is no better. One saturday morning for 4 hours decides ur future? instead of 4 high school years? I personally think APs are better at measuring and SAT IIs. but the SAT is just overrated, and its absurd that 4 hours can decide ur future!</p>

<p>So you think that somebody with a 4.0 GPA from a bad school deserves to go somewhere more than somebody with a 3.6 at hard school?</p>

<p>That is why standardized testing is "a necessary evil".</p>

<p>You can't have kids who were breezing through their easy HS with a 4.0 go to college and get horrible grades unless they can prove themselves to have good reasoning on a scale all kids (or most if you consider the ACT) are on.</p>

<p>"^^ not necessary true. GPA mite be inflated but i think SATs is no better. One saturday morning for 4 hours decides ur future? instead of 4 high school years? I personally think APs are better at measuring and SAT IIs. but the SAT is just overrated, and its absurd that 4 hours can decide ur future!"</p>

<p>Yeah, but the SAT doesn't simply measure your performance over a four hour period; it reflects a number of qualities, such as dedication, work ethic, study skills, preparation, and essentially how much a student cares about his future.</p>

<p>Although it's true that some people take the SAT without giving it much thought, I would think that most takers would try to prepare themselves as much as possible. That's why a high scorer isn't necessarily smarter than a lower scorer, but is likely a more conscientious student and ultimately better suited for a college environment.</p>

<p>I do agree that AP scores should be taken into consideration, however, because they represent the culmination of a year's worth of work instead of just a month or two.</p>

<p>No it measures ur performance of the 4 hours. You suppose to get ready for 4 hours of studying and u basically study the test! ***..... and thats is suppose to measure ur success in College! A score out of 2400 will NEVER ever be able to predict anything about your life, NOTHING!</p>

<p>OK, I hate to disagree with you, but if you show me a student who scored 2400 and a student who score 600, then offhand, I'm going to say that the 2400 scorer has a better chance of succeeding in college.</p>

<p>Like I've said, it's not a perfect system, far from it. However, colleges need an objective measure to determine the general aptitude of an applicant, and the SAT and ACT happen to work well enough for their purposes.</p>

<p>^ o yeah there is going to be exceptions and all, but i get disappointed by the value of SAT has become. Sure taking the SAT and doing well is GOOD but it is not everything, and i know freinds who have scored low went to a JC (junior college) and then transfer to a state school and they have done perfectly fine and in some cases even better then those with high SAT scores. And a score difference between 2400 and 600 is a HUGE difference, if a person got a 600 theres others things to worry about rather then success in college. And colleges use SAT and ACT thats fine with me however i dislike judging people by their SAT or ACT score</p>

<p>Well, there has to be some sort of standard. I don't that colleges focus on the individual score differences like teenagers do (WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 690 and a 700?! etc)...plus, a lot of colleges aren't even requiring SATs anymore.</p>

<p>correct me if i am wrong.
Doesn't SAT test you on your BASIC math proficiency and english proficiency.
Isn't it comparable to a TOEFL. I mean that if I wanted to get into an engineering school let's say, why would it be important that i should do well on my writing and critical reading.(not trying to say 400's or 500's, more than that). That way any score above 2000 is competetive.</p>

<p>i am doing the ib and therefore this is an innocent question:
for ap doesn't everyone write the same final exam?(whole nation)</p>

<p>@Anon<em>Person</em>1</p>

<p>If by "a lot" you mean small LACs and noncompetitive/small schools, then you're right.</p>