Lying and Whining!!!

<p>When I first came to this forum, I found it a very encouraging place where one can obtain a plethora of information about standardized tests and all their facets. I found the student-to-student interaction to discuss various exams administered in high school very beneficial. One could have come here to find out how difficult a certain test is, how it is scored, etc.</p>

<p>Now all I see is a group of individuals prying for attention and reputation. There are literally iposters here that started freaking out when they received a score in the 2100-2300 range. These may not be acceptable scores for these certain individuals, but for others, they are like a dream come true. First of all, you don't need scores of 2300+ to get into ANY university in this, no does it even matter to them after you cross a certain score range. You can all retake your 2390's as many times as you want, but it won't affect college admissioon at all. Also, all of you make others feel crummy when you protest about how low your 99th percentile scores are. If you are unhappy about your score, you don't need to it to announce it to the rest of the internet, because quite frankly nobody cares. Its wuite unneccessary and is a very disrespectful form of bragging in my opinion.</p>

<p>Furthermore, I am tired a lot of posters lying on this website about their scores on this website. I laugh when I hear posters talking about how all their friends scored 2400. Since, only about like a 100 students scored perfect on the PSAT(240), I would expect bout the same coming from the new SAT. Newsflash folks, its highly unlikely that your school has a handful of perfect scorers. It is not even amusing whn people lie about what score they got on atest on the internet. You people need a life, I'm sorry about your bullying issues in school or whatever, but internet forums are quite a ridiculous place to flex your superiority among others. In short, you are not fooling anybody but yourselves. The only reason there are threads to post your scores on different standardized tests is for others to seek help and advice. from you if you scored well in a particular are or exam. There is no reason to misguide these poor souls.</p>

<p>Just some advice for some.</p>

<p>i like carp</p>

<p>Calm down....
It's true there are definitely liars on this forum, but getting adulation from a forum seems like a cry for attention</p>

<p>Heh...You're whining about people who whine. Amusing.</p>

<p>whining i can support (I do quite alot of it), lying, however, is inexcusable</p>

<p>Whining is okay, to a point, but lying is unacceptable. I don't mind the whining about scoes when its "I knew I could have done better, it's a retake for me" I don't like it so much when its "I got a 2300. This is SO LOW! This is the most horrible score I've ever seen" Bottom line for me: whining is good, until it turns to more complaining than whining.</p>

<p>I understand whining. Recognize that there are a lot of emotional dynamics involved here. Whining is simply the expression of those emotional dynamics. Whining about whining is an emotional response. Both the whiners and the readers have strong emotions conflicting. This post is merely an expression of one who is highly dissatisfied with his/her scores OR is driven nuts by the emotional dynamics of others. </p>

<p>I do not appreciate it when people tell me to shut-up whenever I complain about a 2140 (I NEVER ACTUALLY COMPLAINED ABOUT IT, I SAID I DID BAD, BUT WHAT I GOT WAS A DOSE OF ANTI-PERFECTIONISM), if they don't like the whining, that's understandable, but they should not take their anger out on those who are already emotionally charged. It will only lead to extreme frustration and unnecessary enmity.</p>

<p>On the other hand, people who lie about scores should try to be considerate of the existence of these emotional dynamics and the polarity of the same dynamics, and tailor their responses appropriately.</p>

<p>"Now all I see is a group of individuals prying for attention and reputation. There are literally iposters here that started freaking out when they received a score in the 2100-2300 range. These may not be acceptable scores for these certain individuals, but for others, they are like a dream come true. First of all, you don't need scores of 2300+ to get into ANY university in this, no does it even matter to them after you cross a certain score range. You can all retake your 2390's as many times as you want, but it won't affect college admissioon at all."</p>

<p>Well said. I fully agree. Having great scores doesn't hurt in the admission process, but remember that the process itself isn't a science; it's an art. It's very holistic.</p>

<p>after all, i got a 1360 (M:710 V:650), and I got into MIT, Stanford, Columbia, Williams, Berkeley, and Johns Hopkins. All offer a full ride too.</p>

<p>Staticsoliloquy, what was your secret to getting accepted into all those places? Hook?</p>

<p>Staticsoliloquy. Share the wealth... :)</p>

<p>Please do not take this as an attack.</p>

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First of all, you don't need scores of 2300+ to get into ANY university in this, no does it even matter to them after you cross a certain score range.

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I disagree that there is some barrier that is crossed, beyond which any improvements do not matter. I do not see how an SAT score (on the old scale - i'm a geezer) of 1500 could be looked on just as favorably as a 1600. 15,016 people scored above a 1500 in the Class of 2004; only 939 scored a 1600. Perhaps in college admissions a 1500+ becomes negligible in advantage it confers upon the applicant, but in scholarship opportunities, every little extra thing counts.</p>

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Also, all of you make others feel crummy when you protest about how low your 99th percentile scores are.

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Then I pose this question: at what point does "protest[ing]" your score become acceptable? A 1300? A 1200? Like you hinted at, standards of accomplishment are different for every person. I, for instance, retook a 1520 because I knew I could do better. If I had been expecting a 1500, then I would have been happy with that score, but my personal goals were not met so I strove to "keep at it." For you to take this as bragging is for you to not understand that some people are, in all seriousness, unhappy with a 1500.</p>

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There is no reason to misguide these poor souls.

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I agree that it is asinine for these people to make outlandish claims as they do, but to construe it as if their descriptions of their class of 300 having 200 1500+ scorers is somehow misguiding others is wrong. I should hope that people who would care about this are able to "read not to believe, but to weigh and consider" before assuming the veracity of a post.</p>

<p>PS - I believe that staticsoliloquy is one of the exceptions in terms of being an amazingly phenomenal student in all areas except SAT score. If you read his past posts, I think it should be very clear why he is such a coveted applicant.</p>

<p>in support of slipstream:</p>

<p>A 3.2 and a 2310 spell out a very different story than a 3.2 and a 1240</p>

<p>ooops thinking about the old SAT... edit the 1240 to a 1850</p>

<p>so confusing!!! damn you collegeboard!</p>

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after all, i got a 1360 (M:710 V:650), and I got into MIT, Stanford, Columbia, Williams, Berkeley, and Johns Hopkins. All offer a full ride too.

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<p>Rickoid :p</p>

<p>I second the motion to declare static an exceptionally, amazingly phenomenal student.</p>

<p>"There are literally iposters here that started freaking out when they received a score in the 2100-2300 range. These may not be acceptable scores for these certain individuals, but for others, they are like a dream come true."</p>

<p>That may be true for others, but everyone has different standards. You need to recognize that. </p>

<p>I'm personally thinking very seriously about retaking the test just because I think I could have done better on a section. But I have friends who are happy with a 2200ish, and I certainly don't tell them (or think that) they're dumb or anything. It's a person's individual opinion about what they can or cannot accomplish, and that's something you can't regulate.</p>

<p>wow..u need to like...calm down...I seriously doubt "people lying about their scores" is that serious of a problem (I doubt many people do it...)But what the others have said is true: SAT score goals/standards are different for everyone.</p>

<p>anyway, i think one of his points is that scores aren't everything, and they aren't. I would like to say that colleges accept people and not their accomplishments or scores, but what do i know.</p>

<p>it seems alot...</p>

<p>"after all, i got a 1360 (M:710 V:650), and I got into MIT, Stanford, Columbia, Williams, Berkeley, and Johns Hopkins. All offer a full ride too."</p>